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#2191 Anderei

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:55 AM

Dang AKB isn’t on that list. They’ve really fallen down. Not that I really care, I stopped following them in 2012.


I've gotten the impression that the 48 groups are really struggling to sell concert tickets. Although the way this list works means they barely did any concerts at all.

#2192 Meikochi

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 06:34 AM

Dang AKB isn’t on that list. They’ve really fallen down. Not that I really care, I stopped following them in 2012.

I've gotten the impression that the 48 groups are really struggling to sell concert tickets. Although the way this list works means they barely did any concerts at all.

Even theater ones ? I mean, with a performance every day + a few concerts through the year, they should have ended up somewhere on the list.

#2193 Anderei

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:43 PM

Dang AKB isn’t on that list. They’ve really fallen down. Not that I really care, I stopped following them in 2012.

I've gotten the impression that the 48 groups are really struggling to sell concert tickets. Although the way this list works means they barely did any concerts at all.

Even theater ones ? I mean, with a performance every day + a few concerts through the year, they should have ended up somewhere on the list.

They don't have theater performances daily. And I'm not sure those would have counted on this list.

#2194 WonderBuono

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:02 PM

Random trivia: just realized that 2017 had the second largest number of (non-Kenshuusei) graduations/departures, with 10 members leaving; second only to 2009 (which was 26 iirc thanks to Elder Club so pretty unbeatable).



#2195 Madara

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 01:28 AM

Second order from CDJapan in a row where the package got here (NYC) a week after shipping from Japan. That's great! I can now time it (as I did today) to be home when the package arrives because the way they package 3 DVDs now requires a bigger box than it used to and it no longer fits in my (large) mailbox, so the mailman has to bring it up to my apartment.

 

The order I got today includes the H!P Summer 2017 concert, the Buono 2017 concert, and something I'd overlooked two years ago--the final Berryz concert.

 

Next order: MM's new album and the Petit Best 18 releases.



#2196 Zoe

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 01:33 PM

Meh, the setlist for Haruka's graduation kinda sucked. I hope we get a release of the first Budokan date too.

#2197 DonJuan

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 01:52 PM

Yeah, considering so many setlist changes it would be best if they released something like a best of of several shows.

#2198 mm10fan

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 02:52 AM

And now for some Morning Musume status post Kudo Haruka graduation:

 

Age at graduating from Morning Musume oldest to youngest, current members as of 2017-12-11:

 

1. Nakazawa Yuko at graduation was 27 years, 9 months, 27 days old

2. Michishige Sayumi at graduation was 25 years, 4 months, 13 days old

3. Takahashi Ai at graduatiion was 25 years, 16 days old

4. Niigaki Risa at graduation was 23 years, 6 months, 28 days old

5. Tanaka Reina at graduation was 23 years, 6 months, 10 days old

6. Iida Kaori at graduation was 23 years, 5 months, 22 days old

7. Iikubo Haruna as of 2017-12-11 is 23 years, 1 month, 4 days old

8. Li Chun at graduation was 22 years, 10 months, 4 days old

9. Abe Natsumi at graduation was 22 years, 5 months, 15 days old

10. Yasuda Kei at graduation was 22 years, 4 months, 29 days old

11. Fujimoto Miki at resignation was 22 years, 3 months, 26 days old

12. Yaguchi Mari at resignation was 22 years, 2 months, 25 days old

13. Yoshizawa Hitomi at graduation was 22 years, 24 days old

14. Kamei Eri at graduation was 21 years, 11 months, 22 days old

15. Ishiguro Aya at graduation was 21 years, 7 months, 26 days old

16. Fukumura Mizuki as of 2017-12-11 is 21 years, 1 month, 11 days old

17. Ishida Ayumi as of 2017-12-11 is 20 years, 11 months, 4 days old

18. Ikuta Erina as of 2017-12-11 is 20 years, 5 months, 4 days old

19. Ishikawa Rika at graduation was 20 years, 3 months, 18 days old

20. Qian Lin at graduation was 19 years, 9 months, 4 days old

21. Konno Asami at graduation was 19 years, 4 months, 16 days old

22. Mitsui Aika at graduation was 19 years, 4 months, 6 days old

23. Ogawa Makoto at graduation was 18 years, 9 months, 29 days old

24. Ogata Haruna as of 2017-12-11 is 18 years, 9 months, 26 days

25. Oda Sakura as of 2017-12-11 is 18 years, 8 months, 29 days old

26. Sato Masaki as of 2017-12-11 is 18 years, 7 months, 4 days old

27. Nonaka Miki as of 2017-12-11 is 18 years, 2 months, 4 days

28. Kudo Haruka at graduation was 18 years, 1 month, 14 days old

29. Kaga Kaede as of 2017-12-11 is 18 years, 11 days old

30. Suzuki Kanon at graduation was 17 years, 9 months, 26 days old

31. Morito Chisaki as of 2017-12-11 is 17 years, 9 months, 22 days old

32. Sayashi Riho at graduating was 17 years, 7 months, 3 days old

33. Kusumi Koharu at graduation was 17 years, 4 months, 21 days old

34. Tsuji Nozomi at graduation was 17 years, 1 month, 15 days old

35. Goto Maki at graduation was 17 years old

36. Makino Maria as of 2017-12-11 is 16 years, 10 months, 9 days old

37. Yokoyama Reina as of 2017-12-11 is 16 years, 9 months, 19 days old

38. Kago Ai at graduation was 16 years, 5 months, 25 days old

39. Ichii Sayaka at graduation was 16 years, 4 months, 20 days old

40. Haga Akane as of 2017-12-11 is 15 years, 9 months, 4 days old

41. Fukuda Asuka at graduation was 14 years, 4 months, 1 day old

 

The average age of the group rose from 18.286 to 18.308.

 

The new 13 member lineup becomes the 39th lineup. The previous 14 member lineup (14th Gen to Kudo Haruka graduation) with 1 single ends at 5 months, 16 days and is the 18th longest lineup.

 

Tueesday, December 12 2017, the day after Kudo Haruka’s graduation, Iikubo Haruna, Ishida Ayumi, and Sato Maskai pass her on the Morning Musume tenure list. Duu ends up at 15th:

 

1. Michishige Sayumi is at 11 years, 10 months, 7 days

2. Niigaki Risa is at 10 years, 8 months, 22 days

3. Tanaka Reina is at 10 years, 4 months, 2 days

4. Takahashi Ai is at 10 years, 1 month, 4 days

5. Kamei Eri is at 7 years, 10 months, 26 days

6. Iida Kaori is at 7 years, 4 months, 23 days

7. Yoshizawa Hitomi is at 7 years, 20 days

8. Yaguchi Mari is at 6 years, 11 months, 11 days

9. Fukumura Mizuki and Ikuta Erina are at 6 years, 11 months, 10 days

11. Abe Natsumi is at 6 years, 4 months, 18 days

12. Iikubo Haruna, Ishida Ayumi and Sato Masaki are at 6 years, 2 months, 13 days

15. Kudo Haruka is at 6 years, 2 months, 12 days

16. Mitsui Aika is at 5 years, 5 months, 8 days

17. Suzuki Kanon is at 5 years, 4 months, 29 days

18. Oda Sakura is at 5 years, 2 months, 28 days

19. Ishikawa Rika is at 5 years, 21 days

20. Yasuda Kei is at 5 years, 2 days

21. Ogawa Makoto is at 5 years, 1 day

22. Sayashi Riho is at 4 years, 11 months, 29 days

22. Konno Asami is at 4 years, 10 months, 27 days

24. Kusumi Koharu is at 4 years, 7 months, 5 days

25. Fujimoto Miki is at 4 years, 4 months, 13 days

26. Tsuji Nozomi and Kago Ai are at 4 years, 3 months, 16 days

28. Li Chun and Qian Lin are at 3 years, 9 months

30. Nakazawa Yuko is at 3 years, 7 months, 8 days

31. Ogata Haruna, Nonaka Miki, Makino Marina and Haga Akane are at 3 years, 2 months, 12 days

35. Goto Maki is at 3 years, 1 month, 1 day

36. Ishiguro Aya is at 2 years, 4 months

37. Ichii Sayaka is at 2 years, 18 days

38. Fukuda Asuka is at 1 year, 7 months, 11 days 

39. Kaga Kaede and Yokoyama Reina are at 1 year

41. Morito Chisaki is at 5 months, 16 days

 

This also means that the Juukies end their run as the longest complete generation in Morning Musume history at 6 years, 2 months and 12 days.

 

Duh of course still holds the record as the youngest ever to join at 11 years, 11 months and 2 days.



#2199 Anderei

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:32 AM

Holy hell, has it really been that long since 9th and 10th gen joined? Wtf?



#2200 arcobaleno

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:07 AM

Wow, I can't believe Mizuki and Erina are about to pass up Mari's tenure. Damn, time flies.



#2201 Anderei

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:46 AM

Even if one of them announced grad today, they're still gonna beat Kaori. Somebody in 10th gen (my money is on Ayumi) probably will too.



#2202 Farrah

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 04:45 PM

It's amazing how little impact 9th gen have had considering the length of their tenure.  I think we've discussed this before but it still blows my mind.  When I think "Morning Musume" I still don't instantly think of any of these girls, even if I do like some of their songs.



#2203 Saya

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:09 PM

Sayashi had a really big impact on Momusu.

#2204 Madara

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:35 PM

It's amazing how little impact 9th gen have had considering the length of their tenure.  I think we've discussed this before but it still blows my mind.  When I think "Morning Musume" I still don't instantly think of any of these girls, even if I do like some of their songs.

 

Sorry, but I strongly disagree. I've always said that 9th Gen was the best thing to happen to MM since 4th Gen. They re-energized the group after an extremely static period following the Yossie/Miki exit. They were down to five girls when 9th Gen joined, remember?! Riho remains my all-time favorite member. And I absolutely love Mizuki and Erina and relish every moment they're on camera in an MM concert. Mizuki's been a great leader, no easy task with a group that went up to 14 girls this year (now back down to 13, of course). I don't know who among the current members would be anywhere near as hard-working and generous a leader as Mizuki's been. Sometimes you can see the strain, but it hasn't been obvious lately. And most of my favorite MM concerts have come from the last three years.



#2205 Farrah

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:54 PM

9th gen energized things simply as a byproduct of being new after years and years and years of Platinum era's lineup imo.  The actual individual girls really had very little presence to me... even Riho, despite H!P's constant efforts to push her as a front girl (I think she got a more aggressive push than pretty much anyone since Nacchi really...) has never made any distinct impression on me.  Even though I was a fan the whole time she was in the group, I can only even recollect a vague impression of her face in my mind lol. 

 

I don't know... when you say Morning Musume the picture most likely to pop into my mind is probably the time period right after 6th gen was added, when they had a million members.  I'm not sure why but I guess in a way, that line up encapsulated everything I like about idol groups - almost every single member just had such a distinct vibe, aura, presence, whatever you want to call it.  The worst era for me is probably around 2006 or 2008, the time period right after all the iconic 1st-4th gen members had left and Platinum era hadn't begun yet.  



#2206 Anderei

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

Yeah, I think you have to look at it a different way. If they had joined right after another gen would you have been as impressed by them.

To be fair, less opportunities though. Most tv shows, magazines, etc. aren't interest in them and management did their best to make sure the few that were weren't that interesting because every front girl they've picked from 9th gen on has been a total wet blanket off stage. Riho's biggest solo appearance was literally her showing off her PEN collection, Ayumi is somewhat more enthusiastic but not terribly funny or interesting, Sakura is just a singer, Maria's big thing is that she likes baseball, etc. That and people just don't want idols for stuff like they did five years ago.

Unless you're really impressed by them on stage, this lineup has nothing to offer.

#2207 Saya

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:53 PM

MM’14 is probably one of my Top 3 lineups so I have to disagree.

#2208 Zoe

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:45 PM

I think ever since the 9th gen joined, the MM has shifted from being a group of individuals to a collective. Before you didn't need to be an ultra fan to get a sense of their personalities--seeing them on stage was enough. Now you have to actively look into their off-stage antics to know who they are.

#2209 honey

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 10:08 PM

To be fair, less opportunities though. Most tv shows, magazines, etc. aren't interest in them and management did their best to make sure the few that were weren't that interesting because every front girl they've picked from 9th gen on has been a total wet blanket off stage.


Do you think HP does this on purpose? We know some members like Masaki have big personalities that seem to get shot down by management.

#2210 Anderei

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 10:09 PM

I'm sure they've told her to keep her mouth shut but I don't think she has the right personality for variety anyway. I think to be good at variety you have to be well spoken and have a good sense of comedic timing and her thing is and always has been 'lol so random!!!'.

 

Doesn't account for the other billion girls in the group, though. I honestly just don't think of them as a very ambitious group outside of having the regular ambitions that every idol who has ever debuted has.



#2211 DonJuan

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 10:56 PM

Yeah, I think girls like the two Harunas can talk rather well (even though Oharu's jokes are a bit...), but they never do more than necessary. Granted, what for? They still get paid more than most idols and considering they're mostly coming from families that are really well off they don't even need their paycheck.

And yeah, what Zoe said about them becoming a collective. 



#2212 Madara

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:10 PM

I should point out that I base my assessment of them almost entirely on concert performances and music videos. I don't watch a lot of their other TV appearances, other than the random video like the MM DVD Magazine with the Haruka-as-high school love object drama/skit or videos that Kitaoji sends me, like the one with General Momohime conducting the HinaFes selections with all of H!P present. To be honest, how they do on stage is most important to me.



#2213 Saya

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 01:43 AM

Masaki is known for not liking being on TV. She always tries to avoid cameras.

#2214 mm10fan

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:56 AM

Thursday, December 14 2017, Fukumura Mizuki and Ikuta Erina passed Yaguchi Mari on the Morning Musume tenure list to move into 8th.

 

1. Michishige Sayumi is at 11 years, 10 months, 7 days

2. Niigaki Risa is at 10 years, 8 months, 22 days

3. Tanaka Reina is at 10 years, 4 months, 2 days

4. Takahashi Ai is at 10 years, 1 month, 4 days

5. Kamei Eri is at 7 years, 10 months, 26 days

6. Iida Kaori is at 7 years, 4 months, 23 days

7. Yoshizawa Hitomi is at 7 years, 20 days

8. Fukumura Mizuki and Ikuta Erina are at 6 years, 11 months, 12 days

10. Yaguchi Mari is at 6 years, 11 months, 11 days

11. Abe Natsumi is at 6 years, 4 months, 18 days

12. Iikubo Haruna, Ishida Ayumi and Sato Masaki are at 6 years, 2 months, 15 days

15. Kudo Haruka is at 6 years, 2 months, 12 days

16. Mitsui Aika is at 5 years, 5 months, 8 days

17. Suzuki Kanon is at 5 years, 4 months, 29 days

18. Oda Sakura is at 5 years, 3 months

19. Ishikawa Rika is at 5 years, 21 days

20. Yasuda Kei is at 5 years, 2 days

21. Ogawa Makoto is at 5 years, 1 day

22. Sayashi Riho is at 4 years, 11 months, 29 days

22. Konno Asami is at 4 years, 10 months, 27 days

24. Kusumi Koharu is at 4 years, 7 months, 5 days

25. Fujimoto Miki is at 4 years, 4 months, 13 days

26. Tsuji Nozomi and Kago Ai are at 4 years, 3 months, 16 days

28. Li Chun and Qian Lin are at 3 years, 9 months

30. Nakazawa Yuko is at 3 years, 7 months, 8 days

31. Ogata Haruna, Nonaka Miki, Makino Marina and Haga Akane are at 3 years, 2 months, 14 days

35. Goto Maki is at 3 years, 1 month, 1 day

36. Ishiguro Aya is at 2 years, 4 months

37. Ichii Sayaka is at 2 years, 18 days

38. Fukuda Asuka is at 1 year, 7 months, 11 days 

39. Kaga Kaede and Yokoyama Reina are at 1 year, 2 days

41. Morito Chisaki is at 5 months, 18 days



#2215 AquaChan

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 05:03 AM

Can't believe how 12th gen has passed Goto on the list and are just starting to have a (rather small) impact on the group. That's crazy.

#2216 Anderei

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 06:53 AM

What's crazier is that CG was announced around the same time and have already been shuffled and demoted to a sub group. 



#2217 AquaChan

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 07:07 AM

What's crazier is that CG was announced around the same time and have already been shuffled and demoted to a sub group.


This and Kobushigedon.

#2218 Madara

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 11:30 AM

If Sakura Oda stays at least a year longer, she'll pass 10th Gen as the complete Gen with the longest tenure.



#2219 Madara

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 06:44 PM

We were able to watch Kudo's graduation concert because it streamed over the Fuji TV website. Does this mean TV viewers were able to see it on TV (and not their computers) in Japan? Or was it only available via streaming? If it was shown on TV, when did that begin? When did H!P concerts first start getting broadcast to TV viewers in Japan live?

 

Thanks.



#2220 Meikochi

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 07:10 PM

I'm pretty sure H!P streamed concerts are available on TV since at least Berry graduation (March 2015) (completely sure from Fukuda's graduation, November 2015).