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Morning Musume 20th year anniversary - BBS final ranking It's that time of the decade again 109 replies to this topic Started by Derby , Mar 08 2017 05:16 AM · 

#31 Madara

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:59 AM

What date constitutes the actual 20th anniversary?



#32 Anderei

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:31 AM

I think they use Ai no Tane's release date don't they?



#33 Derby

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:33 AM

I thought so too. But I went on youtube to answer Madara and the date that's on the description for Ai no tane is November 3rd. Maybe they go by year instead of the actual release date.
Then they officially debuted with Morning Coffee in January 28th, 1998.

PS: didn't they release the 13th album, Colorful character, as their 15th anniversary? it was in between 1·2·3 and Wakuteka, and Wakuteka was released around October I think

PS2: "Tsunku decided to form a girl group consisting of five of the runners-up: Nakazawa Yuko, Abe Natsumi, Iida Kaori, Fukuda Asuka, and Ishiguro Aya. Morning Musume was officially announced as a group by Tsunku on the September 14 episode of ASAYAN."  And their 13th album was released on September 12th



#34 Anderei

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:49 AM

I know they don't use 1998 because they had their 10th anniversary unit in 2007. And they had their 15th anniversary concert in fall 2012.



#35 moralar

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:53 AM

I don't know enough of 9th+ gens to vote (I only recognize a few like Kudou Haruka and Ikuta Erina), but I just wanted to voice my approval of 6th gen domination. However, I feel the correct order should be Mikitty > Sayu > Turtle. And Kusumi Koharu in last place.



#36 Shoujo Q

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:35 AM

Morning Musume official date is September 14, 1997.

Takahashi Ai's birthday and Oda Sakura's debuted in Morning Musume on that day.

They chose that date because it's the one where they were officially announced as a group on ASAYAN.

And it's only because of Sakura that I now have the date forever ingrained into me. XD

If you remember those two facts about Sakura and Takahashi, you'll never forget the date. Pro tip. ;)

#37 Mugi

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:52 AM

40 Nonaka Miki

39 Niigaki Risa

38 Ikuta Erina

37 Yaguchi Mari

36 Satou Masaki

35 Iida Kaori

34 Oda Sakura

33 Fukumura Mizuki

32 Yasuda Kei

31 Konno Asami

30 Takahashi Ai

29 Kamei Eri

28 Michishige Sayumi

27 Kudou Haruka

26 Yoshizawa Hitomi

25 Tanaka Reina

24 Ishikawa Rika

23 Kaga Kaede

22 Yokoyama Reina

21 Suzuki Kanon

20 Iikubo Haruna

19 Haga Akane

18 Fujimoto Miki

17 Mitsui Aika

16 Linlin

15 Nakazawa Yuuko

14 Kago Ai

13 Gotou Maki

12 Ishida Ayumi

11 Ogata Haruna

10 Makino Maria

09 Tsuji Nozomi

08 Abe Natsumi

07 Ichii Sayaka

06 Ogawa Makoto

05 Sayashi Riho

04 Kusumi Koharu

03 Junjun

02 Ishiguro Aya

01 Fukuda Asuka

 

#FF0000



#38 JPope

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:35 AM

 

LOL my top ten is all over the place, I became a fan at The Peace! so 5th gen was my first audition and Maki was my first grad.

Looking at the few regulars that posted 10 years ago, I wouldn't be able to tell when they became a fan. Only more recent fans you can tell since the current members are littered closer to the top :lol: I'm surprised Kamei is at the top too. Reina always seemed more popular of 6ki. Miki too.

 

 

You can definitely tell with mine. Others, not so much.



#39 Mizura

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:45 AM

The sorter made things a lot easier. There are probably some members who aren't entirely accurate in their placings, but its close enough to how I generally rank them. The bottom also feels a bit less accurate in some parts but I'm too lazy to really sort through it. While I don't hate Koharu as much as the rest of you guys do, she's still at the bottom for me.

 

Spoiler



#40 arcobaleno

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:34 AM

+40. Kamei Eri
+39. Michishige Sayumi
+38. Ishiguro Aya
+37. Fukumura Mizuki
+36. Sayashi Riho
+35. Yasuda Kei
+34. Yoshizawa Hitomi
+33. Gotou Maki
+32. Nonaka Miki
+31. Iikubo Haruna
+30. LinLin
+29. Yokoyama Reina
+28. Ogata Haruna
+27. Ogawa Makoto
+26. Nakazawa Yuuko
+25. Takahashi Ai
+24. Kudou Haruka
+23. Kaga Kaede
+22. Fujimoto Miki
+21. Ishikawa Rika
+20. Haga Akane
+19. Tsuji Nozomi
+18. Konno Asami
+17. Suzuki Kanon
+16. Iida Kaori
+15. Ichii Sayaka
+14. Niigaki Risa
+13. JunJun
+12. Abe Natsumi
+11. Yaguchi Mari
+10. Fukuda Asuka
+9. Oda Sakura
+8. Tanaka Reina
+7. Mitsui Aika
+6. Ishida Ayumi
+5. Satou Masaki
+4. Ikuta Erina
+3. Kago Ai
+2. Kusumi Koharu
+1. Makino Maria

Code: #00ccff



#41 Derby

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:17 AM

I'm sorry guys for not updating the ranking. I was doing stuff for the majority of the day and I was also waiting to have at least 4 votes to count so it is not so much work rearranging the ranking and stuff only for one person's votes but I didn't realize Mizura's votes were in a spoiler box. I'll get to it the moment I wake up tomorrow

Also, if you guys want, you can edit your original ranking and add at the bottom an HTML code of your prefference for a little surprise when the ranking is finished. It doesn't matter if you repeat colors with anyone.



#42 Ap2000

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:41 AM

Thanks for calculating it all together!

 

I'll contribute with my ultimate liste of morning daugthers this weekend.



#43 zlilzlilzlil

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:03 PM

40 Kamei Eri
39 Niigaki Risa
38 Fukumura Mizuki
37 Yaguchi Mari
36 Satou Masaki
35 Fujimoto Miki
34 Oda Sakura
33 Nonaka Miki
32 Takahashi Ai
31 Suzuki Kanon
30 Konno Asami
29 Ishiguro Aya
28 Nakazawa Yuuko
27 Yoshizawa Hitomi
26 Tsuji Nozomi
25 Yasuda Kei
24 Kago Ai
23 Iida Kaori
22 Kudou Haruka
21 Ogawa Makoto
20 Abe Natsumi
19 Ichii Sayaka
18 Fukuda Asuka
17 Tanaka Reina
16 Linlin
15 Michishige Sayumi
14 Gotou Maki
13 Ishikawa Rika
12 Junjun
11 Ishida Ayumi
10 Sayashi Riho
9 Kaga Kaede
8 Ikuta Erina
7 Yokoyama Reina
6 Makino Maria
5 Kusumi Koharu
4 Mitsui Aika
3 Haga Akane
2 Iikubo Haruna
1 Ogata Haruna


#44 aisasami

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 05:48 PM

40 Goto Maki

39 Michishige Sayumi
38 Nakazawa Yuko
37 Fujimoto Miki
36 Kago Ai
35 Yaguchi Mari
34 Linlin
33 Kamei Eri
32 Iida Kaori
31 Suzuki Kanon
30 Fukuda Asuka
29 Tsuji Nozomi
28 Junjun
27 Yoshizawa Hitomi
26 Kudo Haruka
25 Fukumura Mizuki
24 Yasuda Kei
23 Ichii Sayaka
22 Ishiguro Aya
21 Takahashi Ai
20 Abe Natsumi
19 Niigaki Risa
18 Konno Asami
17 Oda Sakura
16 Kaga Kaede
15 Nonoka Miki
14 Ishikawa Rika
13 Ogawa Makoto
12 Ikuta Erina
11 Ishida Ayumi
10 Iikubo Haruna
9 Yokoyama Reina
Makino Maria
Ogata Haruna
6 Sato Masaki
5 Tanaka Reina
Haga Akane
3 Sayashi Riho
2 Mitsui Aika
1 Koharu Kusumi


#45 Derby

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:02 PM

Updated.

 

Sakura alone surpassed 6th generation on the average points list since Reina's score is killing her generation's average.
Ishikawa dropped a lot, getting her out of the top 10 while Ai Kago is slowly and steadily going up the ranks.
Konno Asami got away from the bottom 10, said bottom 10 is 33% made by 12ki, with Miki being the only liked member out of her generation.

The question is, will Koharu manage to get at least 100 points? Out of the last 6 votes received, she only got 14 points, going from 44 to 58.



#46 Meikochi

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:16 PM

The question is, will Koharu manage to get at least 100 points? Out of the last 6 votes received, she only got 14 points, going from 44 to 58.


Madara, help me saving Koha-chan !

#47 Thea

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:34 PM

Also, if you guys want, you can edit your original ranking and add at the bottom an HTML code of your prefference for a little surprise when the ranking is finished. It doesn't matter if you repeat colors with anyone.

 

That's a cool idea! Done.



#48 zlilzlilzlil

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:46 PM

Somehow Miki Fujimoto is ranked 2nd overall, while no one chose her as his favorite.



#49 Derby

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:01 PM

Somehow Miki Fujimoto is ranked 2nd overall, while no one chose her as his favorite.

I'm surprised there's not such a big difference between Kamei and Miki considering all the +40 Kamei has received



#50 JPope

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:24 PM

I had a feeling Kamei would do well in this, but even I'm surprised at how well. I have never understood the fascination with her, and have always found her to be kind of annoying, both in her voice and her group personality. I've never hated her -- she's in my top 20 -- but I never saw what so many apparently see in her.
 
I'm a little surprised not one person has listed Mikitty as their no. 1, but I could see how her personality might be off-putting to some. 
 
Other surprises are Sakura in the top 5, Yossie knocking on the door of the top 5, and Tsuji being so low. 


#51 Anderei

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:46 PM

She was quirky without being overly annoying, which you can't say for some of the other girls. I think people found that endearing. And maybe there's the mysticism since she left and never came back in any capacity. We just see her hair every once in awhile.

#52 Ap2000

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 01:08 AM

You all surely knew what I was gonna do! :lol: I edited the sorter to these names.

 
This sorter is killing me. Yuuko vs. Kaori, Kago vs. Yossie, guess you gotta betray some of the girls to get to some results...
Weirdly, at least for me, it seem to have paired the old vs. old and new vs. new members for the most part.

Hardest choice was probably Konno vs. Makoto for me. There were times when I found both utterly superfluous, but they redeemed themselves over time.

Rank from the sorter:
1 Junjun
2 Yoshizawa Hitomi
3 Nakazawa Yuuko
3 Iida Kaori
5 Kago Ai
6 Tanaka Reina
6 Linlin
8 Yasuda Kei
8 Yaguchi Mari
8 Ishikawa Rika
11 Abe Natsumi
11 Kamei Eri
13 Ishida Ayumi
14 Fukumura Mizuki
14 Sayashi Riho
16 Ikuta Erina
17 Takahashi Ai
18 Niigaki Risa
19 Fujimoto Miki
20 Gotou Maki
21 Tsuji Nozomi
22 Iikubo Haruna
23 Oda Sakura
24 Konno Asami
24 Ogawa Makoto
24 Kudou Haruka
27 Ishiguro Aya
28 Ichii Sayaka
29 Fukuda Asuka
30 Michishige Sayumi
30 Suzuki Kanon
30 Ogata Haruna
30 Kaga Kaede
30 Yokoyama Reina
35 Nonaka Miki
35 Makino Maria
35 Haga Akane
38 Mitsui Aika
38 Satou Masaki
40 Kusumi Koharu

I thought about changing a few ones a bit (like Takahashi and Maki going a few higher), but in the end I left everybody exactly where they landed and am really happy with the sorters result. If I did it completely manually, my list would have probably actually been less accurate.

Ok, I'm giving you the pinkest shit I could get: #FF00BF

#53 strawberryjam

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 11:33 PM

Did everyone always like Kamei? I don't even remember Yuzu liking Kamei :hahaha:
Watching all her old videos always make me teary eyed. I miss her so much. :cryalot:

She was the perfect balance of quirkiness, talent, and beauty. Her voice was always so pleasant to listen to even if not best tecnically. I feel like she was the shyest and the last to have a personality of her generation and I really enjoyed watching her grow out of her shell and become a confident woman. After all these years, there hasn't been anyone to replace her for me :cryalot:
 
And this is my fucking color - #C484A5
 

I don't care for anyone below rank 7.
 
1 Kamei Eri
2 Michishige Sayumi
3 Gotou Maki
4 Kago Ai
4 Takahashi Ai
6 Ishikawa Rika
7 Junjun
7 Iikubo Haruna
7 Oda Sakura
7 Yokoyama Reina

11  Abe Natsumi
12 Tanaka Reina
12 Linlin
14 Fukuda Asuka
15 Fujimoto Miki
16 Yoshizawa Hitomi
16 Tsuji Nozomi
16 Fukumura Mizuki
16 Kudou Haruka
20 Satou Masaki
21 Yasuda Kei
21 Konno Asami
21 Ogawa Makoto
21 Niigaki Risa
25 Ichii Sayaka
26 Iida Kaori
27 Nakazawa Yuuko
28 Ishiguro Aya
29 Yaguchi Mari
29 Sayashi Riho
31 Nonaka Miki
32 Mitsui Aika
32 Ikuta Erina
32 Haga Akane
35 Kaga Kaede
36 Makino Maria
37 Ogata Haruna
38 Ishida Ayumi
39 Kusumi Koharu
39 Suzuki Kanon



#54 JPope

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:27 AM

Did everyone always like Kamei? 

 

Yes. She's been wildly popular since she opened up as an H!P News girl.



#55 Derby

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:33 AM

I don't care for anyone below rank 7.

Do I take all those as ties or is it not finished yet like ap's rank?



#56 aine

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:52 AM

I knew Eri was popular, but I'm still surprised by her leading the ranking. I guess that's what happens when you're universally likeable and uncontroversial.
 
My ranking below. I used the sorter, then fine-tuned it by hand a little because I felt some ranks weren't right when considered in the larger context. Original sorter positions are in the brackets. TsujiKago got the biggest boost - I don't care much for them as individual members which is why they ended up towards the bottom in the sorter, but they definitely don't belong that low. Nonaka got the biggest demotion - I have a soft spot for her out of the whole 12th, but looking at the whole ranking there's no way she can rank above many of the old timers.
 
Fukuda and Ichii are low, probably too low, but they were both gone before I got into Morning Musume so I got no opinion or attachment to them. So was Ishiguro, but 1st gen Tanpopo is still my favourite sub-group and she was my favourite member of it.
 
I didn't combine and split the points, because I would mostly do it between pairs of members (see Sayu and Riho for example) and I didn't want to be that asshole whose list was full of fractions. So as Derby suggested I broke the ties based on trivial criteria. The only exception are the other three 12th gen members whom I find all equally bland and useless. :lol:
 
I'm not 100% satisfied with the ranking, I feel I should bump many of the old timers higher because they contributed so much more to the character of the group. At the same time, they were gone for years now and the memory kind of faded, eclipsed by the presence of the newer generations - even if those newbies would show their mediocrity if we ever got to see them perform on the same stage. So I'm leaving it as it is.
 
And I'm totally claiming the glorious #ED2939 red!
 
40 (1) Michishige Sayumi
39 (1) Sayashi Riho
38 (3) Kamei Eri
37 (3) Oda Sakura
36 (5) Takahashi Ai
35 (6) Tanaka Reina
34 (7) Fukumura Mizuki
33 (7) Kaga Kaede
32 (7) Ishida Ayumi
31 (12) Niigaki Risa
30 (12) Nakazawa Yuuko
29 (10) Iikubo Haruna
28 (11) Kudou Haruka
27 (19) Ishiguro Aya
26 (19) Fujimoto Miki
25 (12) Gotou Maki
24 (12) Satou Masaki
23 (16) Linlin
22 (16) Ikuta Erina
21 (19) Yokoyama Reina
20 (19) Junjun
19 (19) Ishikawa Rika
18 (19) Yoshizawa Hitomi
17 (35) Tsuji Nozomi
16 (36) Kago Ai
15 (16) Nonaka Miki
14 (19) Abe Natsumi
13 (26) Yasuda Kei
12 (26) Iida Kaori
11 (28) Yaguchi Mari
10 (28) Ogawa Makoto
9 (28) Mitsui Aika
8 (34) Konno Asami
6 (28) Ogata Haruna
6 (28) Makino Maria
6 (28) Haga Akane
4 (37) Ichii Sayaka
3 (37) Fukuda Asuka
2 (39) Suzuki Kanon
-9001 (39) Kusumi Koharu

#57 strawberryjam

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:04 AM

 

Did everyone always like Kamei? 

 

Yes. She's been wildly popular since she opened up as an H!P News girl.

 

Oh my ranking is pretty accurate. I just meant everyone below 7 is pretty meh tier for me, haha.



#58 Valerie

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:13 AM

Just wait until Madara gets here -- I'm sure Koharu will get +40.  :party:



#59 JPope

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:37 AM

 

 

Did everyone always like Kamei? 

 

Yes. She's been wildly popular since she opened up as an H!P News girl.

 

Oh my ranking is pretty accurate. I just meant everyone below 7 is pretty meh tier for me, haha.

 

 

I don't think you meant to quote me. lol!



#60 strawberryjam

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:45 AM

 

 

 

Did everyone always like Kamei? 

 

Yes. She's been wildly popular since she opened up as an H!P News girl.

 

Oh my ranking is pretty accurate. I just meant everyone below 7 is pretty meh tier for me, haha.

 

 

I don't think you meant to quote me. lol!

 

 

Pointing out mistakes admins make should be a bannable offense. :cop: