Warning: Essay below
I would rather see MM retire gracefully whilst they still have some respect then deteriorate into a pale, unpopular shadow of what they once were flogging around Japan to bring in a few more bucks to the UFA coffers.
CHRIST ON A CRACKER. Look,
Morning Musume peaked circa 2002, before they had to resort to things that screamed "Gimmick" to all of Japan: randomly adding Fujimoto, splitting the group into 2 rival factions, ballooning into a 15 member disaster, and starting Hello Project Kids (that everyone bitched about on this board when they first showed up, remember?). Turtle, where the fuck have you been the last 9 years? What is this absurd fantasy you have about how Morning Musume was objectively at their peak when they had to import 2 Chinese girls in and Koharu Kusumi became the only solo singer in all of H!P????
I'm sorry but when have I ever said that? In fact the reverse is true.
I personally think MM were at their best between 2002 and 2004, until the 9th Gen arrived I thought, musically speaking, they were at their worst in the last few years and their concerts were generally average.
One thing the group has done RIGHT recently is re-diversified the entire company. For some time now, Morning Musume was not a generational set of "daughters" but more like a high school class (small sets of girls all within a few years apart, exacerbated by skipped auditions etc). But there is now intense competition from Girls Generation, AKB, etc, who also follow that "same-age-classroom-of-girls" model. Also in sound, image, age, and experienece they were on par with the "Kids" groups like Berryz and Cute. They only real soloist was Koharu, who was an anime star and much younger than everyone else -- hence her success seemed marginal and isolated from her "day job" at Morning Musume and in general she was an outlier.
Really, competition from Girls Generation, last single sold over 100K and AKB48, last single sold over a million. That's not competition that's murder, I think they have killed MM and buried the body in the woods at midnight.
So we have youth, diversity, talent, and a range of interesting personalities to liven up what was a group in stasis.
Youth - yes
Diversity - where?
Interesting personalities - how does anybody know with the lack of a regular, sustained TV presence?
1. YOU were still a huge fan even when the group had already lost their golden status.
Yes, your point being?
2. THEY still survived a decade of ridiculousness and regularly hit the top 10, regularly make media appearances, and regularly tour extensively (even globally). If this is not your idea of a successful group, then who are you comparing them to?!
I may be wrong but they don't seem to do much TV escept when they have a single out and even then it's hardly saturation coverage. Yes they tour but they, generally, aren't playing the big venues anymore.
Globally, come on, one trip to the US and one to France (ignoring the Pacific Rim stuff), are they now big in the US or France?
OK, let's compare them to AKB48.......
3. Morning Musume has always been an idol training school. It is hilarious that everyone is panicking because the experienced members are leaving. Well, of course they are! That is the whole goddamn point of their group.
At what stage in the past did they rip out the talented members (assuming Risa will be out soon) and leave a combination of largely hopeless singers and almost no public awareness of the members (except foe Sayumi).
4. Furthermore, with the exception of Takahashi, NONE OF THOSE GIRLS WERE GOOD WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED EITHER. So, the 12 years olds that joined yesterday? Yes, you can rest assured that they will likely develop into solid idols within a year or so.
I assume you are talking about all of MM in which case I'll just say 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, 3rd Gen or are you saying they weren't good when they started?
5. The group is more exciting now than it has been in the dark ages of Mikan. Stop projecting your personal taste as an objective status for the whole group.
Excuse me, "The group is more exciting now than it has been in the dark ages of Mikan.", call me Mr Picky but isn't that you projecting your personal taste as an objective status for the whole group?