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Kids React to K-pop 30 replies to this topic Started by sadude , Jan 11 2012 05:28 AM · 

#1 sadude

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 05:28 AM

The title says it all.

http://www.youtube.c...d6EQ4MxTWE&hd=1

#2 Plum

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 05:33 AM

Morgan is adorable.

Also, kid in the stripey shirt... I totally acted like you at your age. It was awful. Grow out of it early. :lol:

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:01 AM

"Are they like the Wonder Girls?" :weeeh: :weeeh:

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Morgan is a very interesting child. :whatthe:

#4 Ari

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:21 AM

Dylan and Morgan are now my best friends :danceman:

And the stripey kid is typical, I hear that stuff from my non-K-pop loving friends all the time :P

THOUGH, one of the girls was really annoying, I don't understand what they're saying, I don't understand what they're saying, I don't understand what they're saying etc. etc. NO DUH. It's in a different language!

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But it was interesting overall :)

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:39 PM

One of the girls says "Super Junior is ugly".

Can I adopt her ?
Or send her money to support her in some way ?

It's... kinda weird how the asian kid reacts somewhat different. lol

And that dude who says "music nowadays is so bad" is totally me. haha

The kid with the rainbow-pi T-Shirt seems like the most intelligent from the bunch.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

Damn, some of these kinds are really smart. Especially for realizing that Kpop is a bunch of garbage. But some of the stuff they were saying sounds like they're really educated and familiar with how society and the music industry works, even at their age. I love what a strong adverse reaction they got to the fact that these groups train for years before they release any songs or anything.

#7 Petit Melon

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:28 PM

The only kid I had a response to was the one that kept saying "HURR DURR I NO KNOW LANGUAGE STOP PLAYING IT" because that is a personal pet peeve. But I'm guessing the kids that don't care about not understanding the language nowadays are the ones that grew up with 2+ languages in their lives....:confused:

Anyway, it looked/sounded much like what people think of music in general. I could cut in three non-korean artists and you would have the same results.

Oh, wait, and another peeve - Gaga was not the first person to wear flashy oooo la la outfits onstage. smh why is every artist in a fashion forward outfit automatically Gaga to these kids? THAT IS THE BIGGEST CRIME OF ALL. Music industryyyyy!!!! :dammit:

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:27 PM

Oh, wait, and another peeve - Gaga was not the first person to wear flashy oooo la la outfits onstage. smh why is every artist in a fashion forward outfit automatically Gaga to these kids? THAT IS THE BIGGEST CRIME OF ALL. Music industryyyyy!!!! :dammit:


Gaga was the first one they know of that did that. If this was the 1980s it would probably be Michael Jackson.

I want to kidnap Morgan and take her home. Oh gosh.

#9 Farrah

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:47 PM

I don't understand why these kids are so confused by the concept of music being in another language. "OMG I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT why is this not in English, I don't understand why I don't understand." I mean, fuckin' seriously? I was listening to Kpop and Jpop at this age, but even if I had been shown these clips when I was a toddler I would be able to comprehend the concept of "This song is in Korean, therefore I don't know what they're saying, but no big." whereas these kids seem utterly bewildered that people in NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES make music that ISN'T in English.

#10 Plum

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:59 PM

Some people are extremely sheltered and have only had minimal exposure to other cultures and languages.

Sadude and I once discussed how since we both grew up in countries whose popular music was largely from other countries, we don't think it unusual to not understand lyrics in a song. Maybe if you don't have that experience it seems frustrating or grating?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:25 PM

Oh, wait, and another peeve - Gaga was not the first person to wear flashy oooo la la outfits onstage. smh why is every artist in a fashion forward outfit automatically Gaga to these kids? THAT IS THE BIGGEST CRIME OF ALL. Music industryyyyy!!!! :dammit:


Gaga was the first one they know of that did that. If this was the 1980s it would probably be Michael Jackson.

I want to kidnap Morgan and take her home. Oh gosh.


Oh you, so cute. Actually David Bowie and Elton John are who you really meant with a touch of Madonna in there also. It's quite obvious those were Lady Gaga's musical role models.

As for the video. I wished they would have used like SNSD's The Boys instead of digging Gee out of the trash. Showing them the english version instead of the the Korean I wonder if their reactions would have been different? My guess is yes.

I also agree with petit 110%. If I was say, a sheltered Amish child just being exposed to American music. I would wonder what the hell is wrong with America? Why they be shuffling?

#12 Farrah

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:22 PM

I never had any exposure to other languages or cultures before I was exposed to J-pop when I was 10 or 11, so I'm not sure if I think that's entirely correct. I've lived in buttfuck Georgia pretty much my whole life but it's so annoying to see the kids constantly repeating themselves with "I don't understand this!" I mean, you saw the asian people everywhere and you didn't understand any of the words, yet throughout the duration of three different videos you were completely unable to put two and two together to say "Oh, this must be in some Asian language, carry on!" Posted Image It's like going to see a foreign film sans subtitles and complaining with a confused face that you for some reason "don't understand anything they're saying, herp derp!"

#13 Plum

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:32 AM

I think it was less intended as amazement they couldn't understand it and more as a sassy way of saying they don't like not being able to understand it.

Also there are quite a few GA people on the BBS. :weeeh:

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 01:42 PM

Dylan was freaking awesome. High five kid.
Oh gosh I hate that girl Athena so much every time I see this show.
Be more open to other languages kids! English is not the only language spoken in the world!

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:08 PM

Sadude and I once discussed how since we both grew up in countries whose popular music was largely from other countries, we don't think it unusual to not understand lyrics in a song. Maybe if you don't have that experience it seems frustrating or grating?

It wasn't frustrating or grating for me, even growing up in America (middle-America, at that,) it was very welcome, since in the time when I started appreciating music on a full level as a musician (high school) I was so tired of American music and the crap that was being pumped out here, I welcomed something different. I was tired of listening to underground artists or ones from the 60s and 70s to find something I could really enjoy on a regular basis. I wanted something with a pop sound that had new releases on a fairly consistent basis, and exploration with the internet led me in the direction of K-pop and J-pop in the late 90's. Plus, once I had come to appreciate music on a truly musical level, lyrics became the least important part of music to me, so even though I didn't know any Korean or Japanese yet by that point, not understanding them was completely irrelevant. And things with American music have just gotten 50 times worse since when I was in high school, so now I feel like there's no other choice than to listen to stuff from overseas.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:30 PM


Oh, wait, and another peeve - Gaga was not the first person to wear flashy oooo la la outfits onstage. smh why is every artist in a fashion forward outfit automatically Gaga to these kids? THAT IS THE BIGGEST CRIME OF ALL. Music industryyyyy!!!! :dammit:


Gaga was the first one they know of that did that. If this was the 1980s it would probably be Michael Jackson.

I want to kidnap Morgan and take her home. Oh gosh.


Oh you, so cute. Actually David Bowie and Elton John are who you really meant with a touch of Madonna in there also. It's quite obvious those were Lady Gaga's musical role models.


Ohhhh gosh that post was made at dark thirty and MJ was the first I could think of. :wheely: I could've probably think of tons more when I'm awake, Boy George, Ted Nugent, Janis Joplin..

As for the video. I wished they would have used like SNSD's The Boys instead of digging Gee out of the trash. Showing them the english version instead of the the Korean I wonder if their reactions would have been different? My guess is yes.


MTE. Ditto for maybe using like...2NE1's "Fire" or something instead. "I Don't Care" I think would've been a good one. The only relatively normal video they used was "BONAMANA," but I don't think "BONAMANA" was a relatively normal *song*. So it was almost like they were setting up for those kind of reactions.

#17 Pucchi mo

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:57 PM

Whether Gaga was first or not, Kpop copies American music.

Kpop copies American music like it was taking a math test and sitting next to an Asian kid.
:smug:

Morgan needs her own show, and from what era did they transport her?
Somehow hipster clothes work on her, and there's nothing obnoxious about it.

Can we get her to explain H!P?
"Probably cause they wanted 10 people because they just wanted 10 people."

#18 Petit Melon

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

Whether Gaga was first or not, Kpop copies American music.

Kpop copies American music like it was taking a math test and sitting next to an Asian kid.
:smug:


LOL. That is true but I think it refines it into something that pleases me more~ Really, the chicks are hotter and not as annoying. And girl groups. Me gusta girl groups more than divas.

#19 Pucchi mo

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

Petit, South Korea just has better plastic surgeons.

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I'm kidding, of course.

#20 Petit Melon

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

Petit, South Korea just has better plastic surgeons.

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I'm kidding, of course.


Well, if you're gonna make them all hot, might as well use the same template. :ph34r:

#21 Farrah

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:42 AM

I really don't see how kpop copies American music any more than Japanese acts like Koda Kumi. Most American pop songs are conceptually and musically much simpler than a lot of kpop songs, imo. I mean, pretty much every Kesha and Katy Perry song is just a resampling of another "uhntiss uhntiss" track. I would put most kpop in a higher league than that - it's catchy pop songs that experiment with different styles while staying true to their dance pop roots. I don't see many awesome songs like this, or this, or this coming out in America these days. Meanwhile, let's be real, this and this are basically the exact same song. Korean idol music is definitely more American than Japanese idol music, but it still has it's own distinct style.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:58 AM

Korean idol music is definitely more American than Japanese idol music, but it still has it's own distinct style.

Only very certain few Korean artists manage to circumvent the plague of making generic American-sounding music, but there are just as many random, underground artists in America who do the same. We're only talking about the majority here, not a sweeping statement about 100% of music from the respective markets.

#23 Farrah

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:02 PM


Korean idol music is definitely more American than Japanese idol music, but it still has it's own distinct style.

Only very certain few Korean artists manage to circumvent the plague of making generic American-sounding music, but there are just as many random, underground artists in America who do the same. We're only talking about the majority here, not a sweeping statement about 100% of music from the respective markets.


Yes, but I disagree with the statement that the majority of kpop groups simply rip off American music. In my opinion, the groups that release said generic music tend to be the unpopular rookie groups. But songs by major groups like SNSD, SHINee, BEG.. would never get radio play over here unless they were released by someone like, I don't know, Lady Gaga, who is already known for experimenting with a variety of styles in her music. You won't be hearing any songs like Gee or Lucifer on the radio over here any time soon. Yes, they use autotune, yes, their music is dance and club oriented, but it's still very, very distinctly Korean to me.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 04:32 AM

Yes, but I disagree with the statement that the majority of kpop groups simply rip off American music. In my opinion, the groups that release said generic music tend to be the unpopular rookie groups. But songs by major groups like SNSD, SHINee, BEG.. would never get radio play over here unless they were released by someone like, I don't know, Lady Gaga, who is already known for experimenting with a variety of styles in her music. You won't be hearing any songs like Gee or Lucifer on the radio over here any time soon. Yes, they use autotune, yes, their music is dance and club oriented, but it's still very, very distinctly Korean to me.

This post makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Said "generic music" I'm referring to is by all of the biggest groups in Korea today, not just rookie groups. Saying that a song wouldn't get play here unless it was sung by an American artist basically just contradicts everything else you tried to say in this post. That just furthers the idea that the Kpop music in question is almost indistinguishable from modern American music except for the fact that its sung in Korean, and were the same song sung with English lyrics by an American artist, it would have a decent chance at being popular. This also furthers my theory that 90% of Americans out there today actually don't give a flying shit what they're listening to, they just buy into the marketing/hype/buzz/image of an artist or song without actually trying to form their own opinion about it, because its easier for them that way. I mean, who would want to actually think about the entertainment they're taking in and form opinions about it? That's way too stressful and difficult. :rolleyes:

#25 Farrah

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:46 AM


Yes, but I disagree with the statement that the majority of kpop groups simply rip off American music. In my opinion, the groups that release said generic music tend to be the unpopular rookie groups. But songs by major groups like SNSD, SHINee, BEG.. would never get radio play over here unless they were released by someone like, I don't know, Lady Gaga, who is already known for experimenting with a variety of styles in her music. You won't be hearing any songs like Gee or Lucifer on the radio over here any time soon. Yes, they use autotune, yes, their music is dance and club oriented, but it's still very, very distinctly Korean to me.

This post makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Said "generic music" I'm referring to is by all of the biggest groups in Korea today, not just rookie groups. Saying that a song wouldn't get play here unless it was sung by an American artist basically just contradicts everything else you tried to say in this post. That just furthers the idea that the Kpop music in question is almost indistinguishable from modern American music except for the fact that its sung in Korean, and were the same song sung with English lyrics by an American artist, it would have a decent chance at being popular. This also furthers my theory that 90% of Americans out there today actually don't give a flying shit what they're listening to, they just buy into the marketing/hype/buzz/image of an artist or song without actually trying to form their own opinion about it, because its easier for them that way. I mean, who would want to actually think about the entertainment they're taking in and form opinions about it? That's way too stressful and difficult. :rolleyes:


I suppose we disagree entirely on what is considered generic American music, that's something I can't try to change your mind about, but in my opinion, your definition of what "sounds American" is very broad.

You completely misunderstood my statement about Kpop and American artists - I meant that kpop style songs would never BE released in America by any American artist. You will never see Katy Perry or Rihanna putting out a song that is comparable to kpop because pretty much all of their songs sound exactly the same and they never experiment with other styles. I used Lady Gaga an example because she experiments with her music frequently, pulling influence 90's style club music, and disco, and new wave, and even Hispanic melodies and styles. This sort of experimentation is something I rarely find in Western music, whereas many Japanese and Korean groups often release singles with a "theme", which leads to a huge variety of sounds that you simply don't run into much on American radio. Because of that, she's the only Western artist I could see as comparable to kpop.

For example, SNSD covered a Kesha song and to be honest, I hated it. I find her music to be incredibly bland and it never seems like it has had any real thought put into it. It's like she just slaps together some random samples and a boom track and calls it a day. I would argue that many kpop compositions are a lot more intricate than that. There are always going to be groups that try to sound American by releasing generic, crappy music, but I still don't think they're the majority. That said, your opinion of "sounding American" is obviously very, very different from mine.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:32 AM

You will never see Katy Perry or Rihanna putting out a song that is comparable to kpop because pretty much all of their songs sound exactly the same and they never experiment with other styles. I used Lady Gaga an example because she experiments with her music frequently, pulling influence 90's style club music, and disco, and new wave, and even Hispanic melodies and styles. This sort of experimentation is something I rarely find in Western music, whereas many Japanese and Korean groups often release singles with a "theme", which leads to a huge variety of sounds that you simply don't run into much on American radio. Because of that, she's the only Western artist I could see as comparable to kpop.

That first part is actually fairly not true, especially in the case of Rihanna, because her albums contain some generic techno and dance songs but also sometimes include some ballads and even occasionally reggae/dub type songs, so I'd argue her music actually does go outside of the expected range for most American artists. As for the quality of them as a whole, I can't speak too well for them, but as far as variety, there is some there every once in a while. And while Lady Gaga did have a bit of experimentation in her first 2 albums, those days seem to be long gone, and certainly, variety does not equal quality, anyhow. You have to have talent in songwriting and arranging of the sounds you're going for to make them worthwhile.

And while I will admit maybe one of every 5 songs or so by the major Kpop artists of today actually deviates from the usual formula a little bit, its nowhere near enough variety or quality to make them a worthwhile artist to devote my time listening to them, and as I pointed out in my previous paragraph, having one of every many songs actually sound different is nothing new or "unique" that diversifies them from some of the American artists that most of their music is a carbon copy of. As I pointed out in another thread here, I've recently fallen in love with one modern Kpop group, A Pink, because, even though they only have released 12 songs total so far, every one of those songs is unique from the next, and every one has a staggering level of songwriting and vocal performance talent, yet somehow, they seem to be one of the most ignored acts in modern Kpop. Coincidence? Probably not, but just trying to demonstrate that I don't think the entire Kpop industry is devoid of talent or artists worth listening to, they're just like needles in a haystack right now.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:19 PM

For example, SNSD covered a Kesha song and to be honest, I hated it. I find her music to be incredibly bland and it never seems like it has had any real thought put into it. It's like she just slaps together some random samples and a boom track and calls it a day. I would argue that many kpop compositions are a lot more intricate than that. There are always going to be groups that try to sound American by releasing generic, crappy music, but I still don't think they're the majority. That said, your opinion of "sounding American" is obviously very, very different from mine.


That disgsuting person did not write Run Devil Run.
According to wikipedia it's not even on her album.
So SNSD did not really "cover a Kesha song", since it was not written by or specifically for that person.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 03:41 PM

Run Devil Run was a demo song that Kesha turned down. So the producers sold it to SNSD instead. I don't know about the other big companies, but SME buys a lot of their music outside of Korea.

Shinee's Love Like Oxygen and Juliette are actually remakes of other songs. A-Yo was demo'ed by someone else.

SNSD's Genie was produced by a Norwegian company. Mr. Taxi was also demo'ed by someone else first.

f(x)'s Hot Summer is a cover.

There's probably more, but those are the ones that immediately come to mind.

#29 Farrah

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:59 PM

SM are like the kings of buying unused demos and covering songs LOL I like almost all of those songs, and surprise surprise, some of those songs were unable to get past the demo stage in the West, and those that did weren't especially huge hits. This is what I mean when I say good music is hard to find on American radios.

I was under the impression that RDR was a Kesha album track, but I avoid her "music" like the plague so I'm not surprised I was wrong, haha.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:37 PM

SNSD's Genie was produced by a Norwegian company. Mr. Taxi was also demo'ed by someone else first.


Thank goodness they (for the most part) dropped that absolutely digusting autoshittune. :puke: