Morning Musume does Auditions v10
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
What Al said, it's not because of no Hello! Morning as they have the stream show and H!P time and making ofs etc.
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^Ustream is not the same as variety though, they don't have to act as different characters or do skits, or play games,or have batsu games with funny reactions...there's just so much more to variety imo.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
Man, this thread has depressed me...
I'm realizing what has happened since I've been away. Good thing I stopped keeping up after "Sexy Boy" came out. I will keep my pleasant memories of everything else before then. Sad to learn there is no more Hello Morning as well... That was a great show and it did help them to develop personalities.
I'm realizing what has happened since I've been away. Good thing I stopped keeping up after "Sexy Boy" came out. I will keep my pleasant memories of everything else before then. Sad to learn there is no more Hello Morning as well... That was a great show and it did help them to develop personalities.
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The auditions and people leaving are a fact of life with morning musume. I've grown to accept it. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... >/rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I'm excited for the auditions! I hope the influx of new personalities means the current 4 won't be complacent like the past gens and we'll get interesting battles for airtime!
' /> I'm excited for the auditions! I hope the influx of new personalities means the current 4 won't be complacent like the past gens and we'll get interesting battles for airtime!
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Nothing to be depressed about, Morning Musume has had FAR FAR better times after sexy boy than they ever had before it, but hey opinions ftw right?
If you don't want to be a part of the community and you have no interest in the group..... seriously....
WHAT DID YOU EVEN POST FOR.... <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... cepalm.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':facepalm:' />
If you don't want to be a part of the community and you have no interest in the group..... seriously....
WHAT DID YOU EVEN POST FOR.... <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... cepalm.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':facepalm:' />
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<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hawhaw:' /> I love how all the young H!P fans have grown into bitter and jaded adults. It's like, the exact opposite of H!P's music and image. Never change, mmbbs, never change!
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[quote name='Petit Melon' timestamp='1306768223' post='100231']
<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hawhaw:' /> I love how all the young H!P fans have grown into bitter and jaded adults. It's like, the exact opposite of H!P's music and image. Never change, mmbbs, never change!
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Except for Naichau Kamo era songs. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hahaha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hahaha:' />
<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hawhaw:' /> I love how all the young H!P fans have grown into bitter and jaded adults. It's like, the exact opposite of H!P's music and image. Never change, mmbbs, never change!
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Except for Naichau Kamo era songs. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hahaha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hahaha:' />
Delivering bad puns and deciphering
Tsunku's madness for ten whole years!
You're welcome.
Tsunku's madness for ten whole years!
You're welcome.
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
Hey, I've been a fan since 2nd gen MM and been on this board since jet ready go was the boss.
I'm not jaded!
I'm not jaded!
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Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
That seems to be the majority opinion after the S/Mileage auditions -- that she belongs in Momusu.
Many seem to think she's a more well-rounded talent than Sayashi Riho. Vocally, that's probably true. She also has much more personality. She's also younger than Riho -- will turn 13 this December.
Karin Singing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8RV3evCG20
Karin Dancing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtLUAX9WWlY
Vocally, I could imagine Karin replacing Ai and Riho replacing Reina. Mizuki plays Eri's role. Kanon/Eripon probably in the background, although Kanon's voice could improve.
That seems to be the majority opinion after the S/Mileage auditions -- that she belongs in Momusu.
Many seem to think she's a more well-rounded talent than Sayashi Riho. Vocally, that's probably true. She also has much more personality. She's also younger than Riho -- will turn 13 this December.
Karin Singing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8RV3evCG20
Karin Dancing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtLUAX9WWlY
Vocally, I could imagine Karin replacing Ai and Riho replacing Reina. Mizuki plays Eri's role. Kanon/Eripon probably in the background, although Kanon's voice could improve.
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
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Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
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Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight. I think the most we can hope for is more members like Sayumi who are lucky enough to go on TV a lot and hopefully promote the group a bit while they're there.
Karin IS cute, though, and as far as I'm concerned you can never have too many cute members.
Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
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Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight. I think the most we can hope for is more members like Sayumi who are lucky enough to go on TV a lot and hopefully promote the group a bit while they're there.
Karin IS cute, though, and as far as I'm concerned you can never have too many cute members.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
Miyamoto Karin reminds me of just a better version of Sayashi Riho (not that this is a bad thing, but I don't know what about her would "save" Morning Musume.)
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[quote name='Pi Miki' timestamp='1311824113' post='104630']
Miyamoto Karin reminds me of just a better version of Sayashi Riho (not that this is a bad thing, but I don't know what about her would "save" Morning Musume.)
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She reminds me of just a better version of insect alien people.
Miyamoto Karin reminds me of just a better version of Sayashi Riho (not that this is a bad thing, but I don't know what about her would "save" Morning Musume.)
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She reminds me of just a better version of insect alien people.
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311823801' post='104625']
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311823353' post='104624']
Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
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Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight.
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Well, I mean "save" Morning Musume from its slow, steady decline in sales over the past 8 (10?) or so years.
I think the only major exception to the decline was in 2009, when Emo-Musume was hitting it's peak.
When Ai leaves, it wouldn't surprise me if sales plunge even further.
Need major young talent to stop that from happening. And more importantly, Tsunku needs to come up with a new sound.
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311823353' post='104624']
Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
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Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight.
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Well, I mean "save" Morning Musume from its slow, steady decline in sales over the past 8 (10?) or so years.
I think the only major exception to the decline was in 2009, when Emo-Musume was hitting it's peak.
When Ai leaves, it wouldn't surprise me if sales plunge even further.
Need major young talent to stop that from happening. And more importantly, Tsunku needs to come up with a new sound.
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311888751' post='104733']
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311823801' post='104625']
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311823353' post='104624']
Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
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Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight.
[/quote]
Well, I mean "save" Morning Musume from its slow, steady decline in sales over the past 8 (10?) or so years.
I think the only major exception to the decline was in 2009, when Emo-Musume was hitting it's peak.
When Ai leaves, it wouldn't surprise me if sales plunge even further.
Need major young talent to stop that from happening. And more importantly, Tsunku needs to come up with a new sound.
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I don't think talent can save sales. Just good wota bait, catchy songs, and a better marketing plan. I don't think the wota care much if anyone can sing or dance well. And even then, I don't think they'll ever be huge sellers anymore. But if they could keep up the 40-50k range, that would be good.
I'm kind of wondering how many copies this next single will sell, it being Ai's last and all. Will all of her hardcore fans go out and buy 20 copies (there's someone over at H!O who's already bought a tooooon <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />) for the special occasion?
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311823801' post='104625']
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311823353' post='104624']
Can Miyamoto Karin save Morning Musume?
[/quote]
Save Morning Musume in what way? This is a topic that's come up often. I don't think any number of Rihos or Karins are ever going to put them back in the spotlight.
[/quote]
Well, I mean "save" Morning Musume from its slow, steady decline in sales over the past 8 (10?) or so years.
I think the only major exception to the decline was in 2009, when Emo-Musume was hitting it's peak.
When Ai leaves, it wouldn't surprise me if sales plunge even further.
Need major young talent to stop that from happening. And more importantly, Tsunku needs to come up with a new sound.
[/quote]
I don't think talent can save sales. Just good wota bait, catchy songs, and a better marketing plan. I don't think the wota care much if anyone can sing or dance well. And even then, I don't think they'll ever be huge sellers anymore. But if they could keep up the 40-50k range, that would be good.
I'm kind of wondering how many copies this next single will sell, it being Ai's last and all. Will all of her hardcore fans go out and buy 20 copies (there's someone over at H!O who's already bought a tooooon <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />) for the special occasion?
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
^
^ Not me, but as some other members this board would say " <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /lmfao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /lmfao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' /> "
MM is not going to miraculously "saved" by new talent.
It's been discussed a lot on this board already.
I'm too lazy to say all the reasons why though <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... smooch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='=3=' />
^ Not me, but as some other members this board would say " <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /lmfao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /lmfao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' /> "
MM is not going to miraculously "saved" by new talent.
It's been discussed a lot on this board already.
I'm too lazy to say all the reasons why though <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... smooch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='=3=' />
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
Sorry to disagree with the conventional wisdom around here. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311889798' post='104741']
Sorry to disagree with the conventional wisdom around here. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
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I don't know about that. I don't want Saya to kill me because I know she likes them a lot, but since you mentioned 48 girls, we could always use the AKB48 example. And they're not exactly a group of girls with a lot of looks (although this one is very much a matter of personal preference. But in my opinion, not too many of them are very pretty), charisma, or performance ability. They're just a bunch of girls that it looks like someone picked up off the street and threw in a theater and they're huge.
5th gen were the start of the fall of Morning Musume as far as I'm concerned. They feel like a huge filler generation. But I think new management came around in 2002, and that could have played a huge part as well.
And to keep it on a slightly more H!P note, has anyone heard anything about the auditions? I was hoping maybe they would've eliminated enough girls to show us at least a little clip or something.
Sorry to disagree with the conventional wisdom around here. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
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I don't know about that. I don't want Saya to kill me because I know she likes them a lot, but since you mentioned 48 girls, we could always use the AKB48 example. And they're not exactly a group of girls with a lot of looks (although this one is very much a matter of personal preference. But in my opinion, not too many of them are very pretty), charisma, or performance ability. They're just a bunch of girls that it looks like someone picked up off the street and threw in a theater and they're huge.
5th gen were the start of the fall of Morning Musume as far as I'm concerned. They feel like a huge filler generation. But I think new management came around in 2002, and that could have played a huge part as well.
And to keep it on a slightly more H!P note, has anyone heard anything about the auditions? I was hoping maybe they would've eliminated enough girls to show us at least a little clip or something.
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Actually, Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of panty shots and nude photobooks.
I'm being serious about this. Even if you hate them, you have to admit that AKB48 does a great job of selling themselves to wota.
Because what self-respecting man doesn't want the boobs of their favourite singer as the wrist guard for their mousepad? (I know those weren't official merch but still)
Plus look at all the deals you can get with AKB singles. Different songs with each version, different tickets to different raffles. Akimoto is pretty smart when it comes to marketing.
I'm being serious about this. Even if you hate them, you have to admit that AKB48 does a great job of selling themselves to wota.
Because what self-respecting man doesn't want the boobs of their favourite singer as the wrist guard for their mousepad? (I know those weren't official merch but still)
Plus look at all the deals you can get with AKB singles. Different songs with each version, different tickets to different raffles. Akimoto is pretty smart when it comes to marketing.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311889798' post='104741']
Sorry to disagree with the conventional wisdom around here. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
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At this point, it's not even the girls so much as the names "Morning Musume" and "Hello! Project" that keep some people away.
And the fact they receive 0 promotion and barely show up on TV, casual people aren't going to watch shows like H!P Time. I wouldn't even watch it on TV (because it shows too late and the 2nd time it broadcasts, even though it's a Saturday morning, I'm in school), and I don't even think it's broadcasted in Miyazaki anyways. So more like 'can't' I guess, but there's always YT.
Imo Momusu's decline can be tracked to all the original members leaving. Even if the 8th gen had been like 9th gen, they would have still continued to drop. A hardcore Nacchi fan might not be so inclined to follow the group as much when she leaves. Also, things get old. and MM has been around for 12 years now. You can't expect them to last forever.
If UFA wants MM to sell more, than they need to push them more. They just aren't appealing to casual fans, and casual fans imo, are the most important fans.
No matter how bright it shines, no ones going to notice a star if it's not in the sky.
(Bad analogy that doesn't really work I know, but you get my point).
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311890165' post='104743']
I don't know about that. I don't want Saya to kill me because I know she likes them a lot, but since you mentioned 48 girls, we could always use the AKB48 example. And they're not exactly a group of girls with a lot of looks (although this one is very much a matter of personal preference. But in my opinion, not too many of them are very pretty), charisma, or performance ability. They're just a bunch of girls that it looks like someone picked up off the street and threw in a theater and they're huge.
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Kills. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Nah I don't care if you don't like AKB. Everyone's got their own tastes.
But like you said this is all just your opinion. I think AKB has a lot of pretty girls. But one of AKB's appeal points is having "regular girls" which makes them much more easy to relate to. Especially since people like different types of people, so with the variety that they have in looks and personalities, there's a higher chance you will find someone you really like. But there are a lot of girls who do have charisma, performance ability, and what not. It just depends on who you look at. Miichan and Myao are really good at variety and comedy, Acchan pushes herself harder than any idol I know, I could go on and on, but I'll stop at 2.
From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to write them off as "just some big idol group of random girls" but for the fans we see so much more than that.
Sorry to disagree with the conventional wisdom around here. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
But talent does make a big difference IMHO. Of course, by talent, i really mean a combination of qualities -- looks, charisma, performance ability -- that makes someone into a star.
It's the difference between a Riho and an Aika. If you have 48 Aikas in your group, it doesn't matter how good the song and the marketing is.
Momusu's decline can be traced to the lack of new talent. From 2003-2010, the only net new member was Aika. There's your problem right there.
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At this point, it's not even the girls so much as the names "Morning Musume" and "Hello! Project" that keep some people away.
And the fact they receive 0 promotion and barely show up on TV, casual people aren't going to watch shows like H!P Time. I wouldn't even watch it on TV (because it shows too late and the 2nd time it broadcasts, even though it's a Saturday morning, I'm in school), and I don't even think it's broadcasted in Miyazaki anyways. So more like 'can't' I guess, but there's always YT.
Imo Momusu's decline can be tracked to all the original members leaving. Even if the 8th gen had been like 9th gen, they would have still continued to drop. A hardcore Nacchi fan might not be so inclined to follow the group as much when she leaves. Also, things get old. and MM has been around for 12 years now. You can't expect them to last forever.
If UFA wants MM to sell more, than they need to push them more. They just aren't appealing to casual fans, and casual fans imo, are the most important fans.
No matter how bright it shines, no ones going to notice a star if it's not in the sky.
(Bad analogy that doesn't really work I know, but you get my point).
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311890165' post='104743']
I don't know about that. I don't want Saya to kill me because I know she likes them a lot, but since you mentioned 48 girls, we could always use the AKB48 example. And they're not exactly a group of girls with a lot of looks (although this one is very much a matter of personal preference. But in my opinion, not too many of them are very pretty), charisma, or performance ability. They're just a bunch of girls that it looks like someone picked up off the street and threw in a theater and they're huge.
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Kills. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Nah I don't care if you don't like AKB. Everyone's got their own tastes.But like you said this is all just your opinion. I think AKB has a lot of pretty girls. But one of AKB's appeal points is having "regular girls" which makes them much more easy to relate to. Especially since people like different types of people, so with the variety that they have in looks and personalities, there's a higher chance you will find someone you really like. But there are a lot of girls who do have charisma, performance ability, and what not. It just depends on who you look at. Miichan and Myao are really good at variety and comedy, Acchan pushes herself harder than any idol I know, I could go on and on, but I'll stop at 2.
From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to write them off as "just some big idol group of random girls" but for the fans we see so much more than that.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
DAMMIT EVERYTIME YOU GUYS BUMP THIS THREAD I EXPECT NEWS NOT THE SAME OLD BS THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED OVER NINE THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! GO MAKE A "MM IS DOOMED" THREAD ALREADY!!!! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... dammit.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dammit:' />
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
...I know right, Petit? lol
Probably won't see anything until the fall tour.
Probably won't see anything until the fall tour.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Petit Melon' timestamp='1311891117' post='104750']
GO MAKE A "MM IS DOOMED" THREAD ALREADY!!!! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... dammit.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dammit:' />
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Doesn't pretty much every momusu thread turn into a "MM is Doomed" thread? It's the natural progression of things.
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
GO MAKE A "MM IS DOOMED" THREAD ALREADY!!!! <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... dammit.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dammit:' />
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Doesn't pretty much every momusu thread turn into a "MM is Doomed" thread? It's the natural progression of things.
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
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You could have the most angelic voice in the world, but if you don't market it, it isn't worth shit.
They need to do more performances. One or two shows per single isn't going to cut it. How many performances does AKB do per single? Atleast six?
They need to do more performances. One or two shows per single isn't going to cut it. How many performances does AKB do per single? Atleast six?
[11:13:35 PM] Liam: DO NOT LET JAPANESE IDOLS GET IN THE WAY OF THE *AMERICAN* DREAM
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1311890706' post='104748']
Kills. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Nah I don't care if you don't like AKB. Everyone's got their own tastes.
But like you said this is all just your opinion. I think AKB has a lot of pretty girls. But one of AKB's appeal points is having "regular girls" which makes them much more easy to relate to. Especially since people like different types of people, so with the variety that they have in looks and personalities, there's a higher chance you will find someone you really like. But there are a lot of girls who do have charisma, performance ability, and what not. It just depends on who you look at. Miichan and Myao are really good at variety and comedy, Acchan pushes herself harder than any idol I know, I could go on and on, but I'll stop at 2.
From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to write them off as "just some big idol group of random girls" but for the fans we see so much more than that.
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To be honest, a lot of my love went with Oku Manami leaving. I loved her so much and thought she was the most adorable thing ever.
Kills. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Nah I don't care if you don't like AKB. Everyone's got their own tastes.But like you said this is all just your opinion. I think AKB has a lot of pretty girls. But one of AKB's appeal points is having "regular girls" which makes them much more easy to relate to. Especially since people like different types of people, so with the variety that they have in looks and personalities, there's a higher chance you will find someone you really like. But there are a lot of girls who do have charisma, performance ability, and what not. It just depends on who you look at. Miichan and Myao are really good at variety and comedy, Acchan pushes herself harder than any idol I know, I could go on and on, but I'll stop at 2.
From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to write them off as "just some big idol group of random girls" but for the fans we see so much more than that.
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To be honest, a lot of my love went with Oku Manami leaving. I loved her so much and thought she was the most adorable thing ever.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311891705' post='104755']
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
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Talented=/=Senbatsu
Ex: As much as I like her Tomochin can't sing for sh*t.
There are better singers than her among the non-popular girls.
It's about who management can and/or want to sell, and how hard the girls push themselves.
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311891836' post='104757']
To be honest, a lot of my love went with Oku Manami leaving. I loved her so much and thought she was the most adorable thing ever.
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Yeah, I get that.
That's how I was with MM. Kame left and MM just didn't hold my interest as much anymore. No matter how cute I think Eripon is, or how sweet Mizuki is, there will never be another Kame.
When your favorite member leaves, it's just so sad...
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
[/quote]
Talented=/=Senbatsu
Ex: As much as I like her Tomochin can't sing for sh*t.
There are better singers than her among the non-popular girls.
It's about who management can and/or want to sell, and how hard the girls push themselves.
[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1311891836' post='104757']
To be honest, a lot of my love went with Oku Manami leaving. I loved her so much and thought she was the most adorable thing ever.
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Yeah, I get that.
That's how I was with MM. Kame left and MM just didn't hold my interest as much anymore. No matter how cute I think Eripon is, or how sweet Mizuki is, there will never be another Kame.
When your favorite member leaves, it's just so sad...
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1311891899' post='104758']
Yeah, I get that.
That's how I was with MM. Kame left and MM just didn't hold my interest as much anymore. No matter how cute I think Eripon is, or how sweet Mizuki is, there will never be another Kame.
When your favorite member leaves, it's just so sad...
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I've wondered if I would feel this way when Sayu inevitably leaves, since she's been my favorite ever since I became a fan. I'm not sure, since there's some other girls that I'm still a big fan of.
Yeah, I get that.
That's how I was with MM. Kame left and MM just didn't hold my interest as much anymore. No matter how cute I think Eripon is, or how sweet Mizuki is, there will never be another Kame.
When your favorite member leaves, it's just so sad...
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I've wondered if I would feel this way when Sayu inevitably leaves, since she's been my favorite ever since I became a fan. I'm not sure, since there's some other girls that I'm still a big fan of.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1311891899' post='104758']
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311891705' post='104755']
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
[/quote]
Talented=/=Senbatsu
Ex: As much as I like her Tomochin can't sing for sh*t.
There are better singers than her among the non-popular girls.
It's about who management can and/or want to sell, and how hard the girls push themselves.
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I just don't think that philosophy works with everyone. Aika was just a colossal misfire -- she's a hard worker and a remarkably decent person (by all accounts), but in the end, she has very little appeal. H!P could spent millions promoting her and it would make little difference. Same thing with the Pandas -- the wotas just didn't care for them.
Promotion is important, but the product matters too.
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311891705' post='104755']
And the top girls at AKB are talented. At least the Senbatsu ones are.
[/quote]
Talented=/=Senbatsu
Ex: As much as I like her Tomochin can't sing for sh*t.
There are better singers than her among the non-popular girls.
It's about who management can and/or want to sell, and how hard the girls push themselves.
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I just don't think that philosophy works with everyone. Aika was just a colossal misfire -- she's a hard worker and a remarkably decent person (by all accounts), but in the end, she has very little appeal. H!P could spent millions promoting her and it would make little difference. Same thing with the Pandas -- the wotas just didn't care for them.
Promotion is important, but the product matters too.
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
Aw dicks, I just started another AKB48 discussion. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
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Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
I try to never mention AKB on this board (except in the AKB thread) because of that.
Because I know I will jump in and defend them for the most part.
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311892565' post='104762']
I just don't think that philosophy works with everyone. Aika was just a colossal misfire -- she's a hard worker and a remarkably decent person (by all accounts), but in the end, she has very little appeal. H!P could spent millions promoting her and it would make little difference. Same thing with the Pandas -- the wotas just didn't care for them.
Promotion is important, but the product matters too.
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That's why I said who the management can sell. If a girl is not selling well, then they eventually stop pushing her.
Which is why Aika is always in the back of MM singles.
I think we should stop now before this turns into another topic.
And @Anderei: They haven't said when the new girls will be announced, but I expect it to be during their fall tour.
Because I know I will jump in and defend them for the most part.
[quote name='Riho World' timestamp='1311892565' post='104762']
I just don't think that philosophy works with everyone. Aika was just a colossal misfire -- she's a hard worker and a remarkably decent person (by all accounts), but in the end, she has very little appeal. H!P could spent millions promoting her and it would make little difference. Same thing with the Pandas -- the wotas just didn't care for them.
Promotion is important, but the product matters too.
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That's why I said who the management can sell. If a girl is not selling well, then they eventually stop pushing her.
Which is why Aika is always in the back of MM singles.
I think we should stop now before this turns into another topic.
And @Anderei: They haven't said when the new girls will be announced, but I expect it to be during their fall tour.
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rikako♡eripon♡airi
Re: Morning Musume does Auditions v10
[quote name='Saya' timestamp='1311893509' post='104766']
I try to never mention AKB on this board (except in the AKB thread) because of that.
Because I know I will jump in and defend them for the most part.
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No one on this board said anything bad about AKB in this thread. No one has also said anything bad about AKB recently either. Fans of H!P cannot like other idols groups, how silly.
I try to never mention AKB on this board (except in the AKB thread) because of that.
Because I know I will jump in and defend them for the most part.
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No one on this board said anything bad about AKB in this thread. No one has also said anything bad about AKB recently either. Fans of H!P cannot like other idols groups, how silly.