Morning Musume :: Pyocopyoco Ultra

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Compared to the Peep song, I like the c/w. It'll be nice by the summer because the 10th gen will be taking more active roles in the songs being released. What with Risa going away to live on the farm with Takahashi.



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Longer b-side preview.



Someone over at H!O pointed out how the beginning sounds like it could be from a Kesha song, and it totally does. This would've been cool as an A-side.
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Nice opening. Would have had an interesting PV if they made it into a A-side. Shame. This is more the Morning Musume I like.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1325956636' post='115590']

Longer b-side preview.



Someone over at H!O pointed out how the beginning sounds like it could be from a Kesha song, and it totally does. This would've been cool as an A-side.

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Lol? Isn't the beginning actually from a Kesha song? It's definitely ripped from something. Oh, and it's alot better than the a-side.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1325956636' post='115590']

Longer b-side preview.



Someone over at H!O pointed out how the beginning sounds like it could be from a Kesha song, and it totally does. This would've been cool as an A-side.

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Lol? Isn't the beginning actually from a Kesha song? It's definitely ripped from something. Oh, and it's alot better than the a-side.

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The more I listen to it the more I think Tsunku might have actually sampled one of her songs. Because it's very similar to We R Who We R.
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It only gets good around the chorus, the pacing of the opening lines makes them seem so disinterested. I don't understand the purpose of the full robotic voice part at the start, it's kind of wimpy and has no impact or punch, they could have given it to some new girls. I loved IM LUCKY GIRL's robot elements, that was cool, this falls short. Hopefully it's just due to the radio preview's quality.



I do like the robot part that sings between Risa & Reina right before the chorus begins.



I think this sounds a bit like Aishite Aishite Ato Ippun. The early lines kind of sound like Naichau Kamo, but they're trying to make it more upbeat (not so successfully.) The chorus sounds like something else, but I'm not sure what yet.



I'm willing to bet all of Aika's limbs that this is arranged by Okubo Kaoru.
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Maybe it's just the comparison to PyocoPyoco Ultra that makes me like Kanashiki Koi no Melody, but I like it. As for the former, I just watched the concert footage of it that was on H!P Time this week. The more I hear/see this song, the more I think I'm going to patiently await the next single and pretend this never happened. I miss Aichan terribly but I'm also glad I don't have to watch her go through this hell.
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I don't know if it sounds like Kesha or not (don't follow her) but it sounds like...every other synth song. I don't mind though, so far it sounds nice and Riho is gradually getting less grating. And I can hear some of the other 9th gen members! ... I think.
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I definitely heard Zukki, and other people are saying that Eripon and Mizuki have lines too. Normally I can pick out Mizuki easily but the instrumental gets in the way.
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...Riho is gradually getting less grating.

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Interestingly, I thought she sounded way more normal live when I watched Ai Believe compared to how she sounds on recordings. She's like the opposite of most people.
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The A-side is growing on me, and I think the B-side is fantastic. I wish they'd make this one another double-A.



I think Riho actually sounds pretty teriffic on the B-side. I think she's currently being auto-tuned, but with practice, I think she can be a first rate singer.



Future of Momusu vocal-wise seems to be Riho, Mizuki, Zukki, Haruka and Masaki. None of them are fantastic, but I think they're a pretty decent core group of singers.
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Ayumi is pretty great right??
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[quote name='rob' timestamp='1326171871' post='115771']

Ayumi is pretty great right??

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Hamasaki, yeah she's not bad.
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[quote name='The Turtle Moves' timestamp='1326196702' post='115784']

[quote name='rob' timestamp='1326171871' post='115771']

Ayumi is pretty great right??

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Hamasaki, yeah she's not bad.

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Even that one's debatable these days.



Oh my god, that b-side is eating my insides out. a) that preview is terrible quality b) the chorus and verses are good, but that synth and the intros just sound wrong. It's in an awful middle place between American (or even Korean) pop and the Tsunku sound,. merf.
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[quote name='neshcom' timestamp='1326212985' post='115794']

[quote name='The Turtle Moves' timestamp='1326196702' post='115784']

[quote name='rob' timestamp='1326171871' post='115771']

Ayumi is pretty great right??

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Hamasaki, yeah she's not bad.

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Even that one's debatable these days.

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She has always been debatable. Now she at least has a reason.
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[quote name='rob' timestamp='1326171871' post='115771']

Ayumi is pretty great right??

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If Ayumi can learn to sing, she could be Riho 2.0 (and she's a better dancer in my opinion). Right now I'm not hearing it.
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The song is growing on me. It's a fungus at this point. Ayumi is cute, though. And Zukki at least looks like she's having fun in the PV preview. I kinda feel bad for the older members.
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I saw the PV(longer ver. on Hello Pro Time) and I think Reina looks so uncomfortable! Haruna needs some confidence and I see that happening like it did with Eripon. Aika still out of commission worries me. The 30sec ver. has better looking clips of Reina. The lines in the background(dividing the "sky") annoy me too. I like the song overall and I plan to buy the CD instead of downloading it from itunes. I hope the Full PV looks better. I think the next single will have a more mature sound, hopefully not like Only You because that was pushing it but more like Mikan or 3,2,1 BREAKING OUT! The 12 soon to be 11 member line-up has me hoping for a 2012 ver. of Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /weeeh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':weeeh:' /> Please Tsunku make it happen!
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FULL PV





I'm going to say this:

1. I did not hate the song, but I did not love it. I think it's the YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH that gets me. It's like having cheerleaders in your ears, I can't hate.

2. What a poorly directed piece of shit for a video. No wait, poorly directed, poorly edited, poorly conceived, ect ect. Maji de only had changing floors and a cactus for schticks and it still worked 200% more than using the fucking burn in feature to do...what? Make them into chicks? Why did they do that to the singing part for Risa then? WHY UGH I'm so sorry 10th gen, you got the short end of the stick. The Cookies must be laughing with glee inside because their debut song was not redic and their outfits weren't making them into peeps. I HATE THIS PV SO MUCH.
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Ugh is there any way to unwatch something? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> Also pissed that everyone except Kanon and Erina got solos.
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It's things like this that make me so thankful Koharu is no longer in the group. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... ryalot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cryalot:' /> Could you imagine that voice in this song?

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Reina and Sayumi look extremely adorable in those outfits, the 9&10 girls don't even look or seem like idols here. Maybe it's just in comparison, or the fact that they're all wearing the same outfits exactly? It doesn't seem like they're having as much fun with this as they could be, though.

Someone at least needs to dye their hair kid Miyabi-style, stat. I pick Haruka.



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I like the song, but it's a minute and a half too long and the PV is just kind of a flop; not terrible, definitely bad.
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I like everything but the dance. The PV is fine, but it will be painful to watch performances of it. I don't expect them to do much promotion for this one.
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Hearing the song all the way through in good quality, I don't hate it. In fact, it's really cute and kind of fun. But it went to the wrong group at the wrong time. This is a poor choice of song to debut a new generation with, especially since it doesn't fit the image of the new girls at all save maybe Masaki. Had this been a S/mileage song or a Shin Mini Moni song, I probably would love it. As it is, it's currently somewhere above bottom in my MM rankings. I don't hate it, but I don't love it.



As for the PV...



Things I hate:

1. The burn in effect. It makes no sense, it looks awful, and you can see them get cut off frequently by digital walls above, in front of, and behind them.

2. Why are there white lines on the sky? This looks dumb.

3. Risa holding up the sign. It's too small and faint to read without pausing or having a really HQ version.

4. The Aika thing is getting silly. To be fair, I'd probably feel the opposite if she were a favorite of mine. But since she's not! Why does this girl get lines that she'll never get to perform? Meanwhile Zukki and Eripon get the shaft despite improving a lot. The parts where she's standing around pointing to everyone else dancing just accent how separated she feels from the group.



Things I like:

1. It's very colorful and happy. The sets are actually really cute.

2. Overall, there's a bit more effort in this than the usual MM PV. Stuff actually happens that isn't a close up or a dance shot and they made a small effort at having a story by making the 10th gen little eggs and Risa the mama hen.

3. The dance is fun and fits the motions somehow make the costumes slightly less stupid looking.



Overall uh...not terrible but I'm ready to move on to the next single.
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I think they're trying to continue with that big Aika push they started before she got hurt.
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It's pretty hard to push someone who can't be anywhere to promote themselves.
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[quote name='Molly' timestamp='1326297941' post='115854']

Ugh is there any way to unwatch something? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nfused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> Also pissed that everyone except Kanon and Erina got solos.

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THIS! If their singing is not always "up to par" to some, they at least have personality to bring it through. They've both gotten so much better, though!



I'm proud of Mizuki for getting some lines, though. Not that it's her choice or anything.



It was kinda painful to watch Aika try to run around in the lip. shot (or whatever it's called when they are all on screen as a group not dancing and fighting for the camera). It's obvious she still has issues with her leg. I wonder if they're pushing her to do too much, too soon. That'll probably exacerbate the problem and then she'll really have to leave.



I'm starting to like the song now that I've heard it in full. I really don't like that upward inflection at the end of Haruna's "Onna no ko" line. It makes it seem like she couldn't hit the lower note correctly so they made her do cutesy stuff.



From the auditions and the Hello Time segments, I kinda expected Haruka to get more of a push to the front in the song. Or maybe they learned their lesson with Riho.
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At least Haruka finally hatched from an egg? /bad joke
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I caaaaaaaaan't. I tried, but I couldn't even make it all the way through the PV... partially because it was legitimately hurting my eyes with all that blown out white and yellow. Going to continue pretending this never happened.
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