Morning Musume :: Pyocopyoco Ultra

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Please, somebody seriously tell me. What has the world come to? What kind of a nightmare Philip-K.-Dick-tripping-on-meth alternate reality did I just wake up to? Why does The Turtle Prophecy suddenly seem so real?



Congratulations, UFA, you have just managed to top Namida in the level of shittyness. To make sure I'm not just taking out of my ass I actually watched Namida immediately after watching Puke-o Puke-o, AND I ENJOYED IT. It was soothing to the eyes and cleansing to the ears. After 6 years of an uninterrupted reign, Namida loses its spot at the very the bottom of my MM single ranking. Honestly, try for yourself.



This PV is only fraction of a notch better than the shitty blue-screened videos they used to spew out for Minimoni back in the day. The song itself isn't better either. It's on the level of effort you'd expect for a tie-in song video in a weekly TV show for toddlers. Or even daily. As in a show for little whipper-snappers who will swallow everything that's cheerful and bright, and NOT for a DEBUT SONG OF THE NEW MORNING MUSUME GENERATION. I know that MM hasn't been particularly stellar for quite some time, especially compared to Akimoto's evil empire and the Korean invaders, but this beats absolutely everything since their inception.



Is this a case of an administrative corporate screw-up where the wrong song got assigned and budgeted for the wrong group in their portfolio, and no one noticed until it was too late? Or it this Tsunku message to us on the direction he's taking the group into? Or is it really just a bad dream?



Either way, if you have a YT account, I urge you to go to the video and dislike it, leave a comment telling UFA how very astray they went, and vote up other comments that say so. It may not be much, but maybe, just maybe they will get a slightest hint that something IS wrong with it.



I love Morning Musume, therefore I must hate this song and PV.



End of rant. I MAD.



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Why does The Turtle Prophecy suddenly seem so real?



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I have to wait until later tonight to really watch the pv because I half ass watched it at work, but so far what I enjoy most is the dance.
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I didn't think it was that bad, but somehow Sayumi(A.K.A. the girl who revels in being cutesy) seemed to be in the most pain. Don't get me wrong, there were a couple of other girls that had a moment, but Sayumi was just continually hating/bored with it.
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This is how I feel all the time when I watch almost any H!P PV nowadays. I've just become so indifferent already. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' /> See, I can't even be bothered to get to the Turtle level of being pissed off anymore. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':tongue:' />
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PV would have worked SO much better if they used blue screen instead of that overlay crap. It ruined a perfectly good concept.



At like 3:06 with Riho and Erina... That was painful. You're supposed to LOOK at the camera, not at something off camera Erina! How long as she been on OhaStar and she still doesn't know this?



Also noticed Reina can't jump for crap.



I can't hate the outfits, I think they're the cutest things.



PV wise, The Manpower still wins for being the worst ever PV in the history of Morning Musume. Sure they had the awesome alternate version, but they CHOSE to use the dance shot as the official PV! So I can't hate really hard on this PV when comparing it do that mess.
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Well I don't find the PV BAD... It's not the best but I still like it.

My god, every time I hear that line Riho had a voice crack on I can't help giggle! The what's it called.. Projection (? ) really bugs me. I really like big Musume, but I hope their next single is better~
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Just because one video is worse does not mean this one isn't horrible too. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... popper.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':popper:' /> It's insulting to the girls' maturity levels. I'm not saying sex it up but I'm not saying make it Preschool Dora/Kai Lan/Blue's Clues either. I feel bad for them and I hope the next single has better outfits and image because opinions of the song may improve if the PV resembled Koko ni Iruze, Souda, or Mikan ect ect. After their last two PVs I think the fans expected a bit more. Even the changing light color of Only You looked better than this.



Have they released the poster preview like they did with Buono yet? I want to see if they gave them different outifts. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... mellow.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mellow:' />
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Considering this is the only outfit in the PV and on the single, safe to say the poster will be the same way.



But seeing how interesting the covers are, I'm hoping for an off the wall image. I wouldn't mind jumping chicks in space. :D
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Posters? You mean these? These are what you get for buying any of the limiteds. They differ depending on the store you get it from. The kanji for the first one is Shinseido, for the last two Yamano Music, everywhere else.



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Posters? You mean these? These are what you get for buying any of the limiteds. They differ depending on the store you get it from. The kanji for the first one is Shinseido, for the last two Yamano Music, everywhere else.

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I like the PV myself. It's fun and silly and inventive. Beats the pants off boring PVs like Seishun Collection.



Problem is, much of Momusu's current fanbase is used to mature Musume, and this kiddy stuff is difficult for them to swallow. But I can't see this current group of girls doing songs like Shouganai Yume Oibito or even Only You.



Ideally, I'd like to see a song like Go Girl ~Koi no Victory~ or Koko ni Iruzee!
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I read the comments here first and I tried... I REALLY tried to hate it...



I failed.



The PV however is fucking terrible, I lol'd when Eripon wasn't looking at the camera, why hasn't anyone involved with making the video noticed this???

The hand written name signs and the sign that Risa held up... man do they look cheap and bad!



The song I do like though, it's happy, energetic and cute. Good stuff.



The outfits again are awful, THIS is how they are going to fight against the likes of AKB and the Koreans... with stupid looking chick outfits?



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I enjoyed the song and PV just as much as the comments about people not liking the single.



It made me laugh.
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Why are they humping each other at 1:04?
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lol I thought that move was incredibly awkward too...<img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hahaha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hahaha:' />
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Why are they humping each other at 1:04?

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Because they are not allowed to hump boys?
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For all the PV haters, watch the intro of Sugaku Joshi Gakuen for a far better alternate version.
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[quote name='Al Kusanagi' timestamp='1326390806' post='116007']

For all the PV haters, watch the intro of Sugaku Joshi Gakuen for a far better alternate version.

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THIS. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... umbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />
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I thought the PV was adorable and cute! I'm liking the song a lot too <3

Sad that Eripon and Kanon didn't get any lines D:

But glad to hear more of Mizuki~ She has such a nice voice~

Riho has improved a lot too!
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I'd be cool if the OP was updated with links etc.



EDIT:

Ok, watched the music video now.

Well... I guess I'm officially done with MM now.

I don't even feel embarassed anymore or anything like that.



The concept might have sounded cool on paper, but it turned out extremely abysmal.

Probably even the worst video in MM history.



@aine; Namida was just a boring video, but this is absolutely over-exposed crap.

Also, Minimoni was a "kids" group, so I think their videos were fitting overall.



Maji de was a nice happy-fast song, this isn't.

What it really does feel like though, is a left-over Minimoni song/video-concept.
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I'd be cool if the OP was updated with links etc.

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Links to what?
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I'd be cool if the OP was updated with links etc.

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Links to what?

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Music video, those posters etc.
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Done



Yeah I can't watch the PV, but the song is fine enough on its own. It's cute and I like cute. :D



I just now noticed that who I thought was Haruka was in fact Mizuki. That's going to be interesting to try and get use to in the future.
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They wore the chicken outfits for their CD Journal shoot.



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Maybe it's just because it's so small, but Zukki looks almost like a completely different person.



Here's the promotion lined up for it:



TV:

1/14 - J-MELO Shinshun Special

1/17 - Gestuyou Surprise



Radio:

1/13 - E~ne!~good for you~

1/21 - Maitotaimu

1/28 - Maitotaimu



Magazine:

1/14 - CD&DL De-ta

1/20 - CD Journal (Front cover)

1/24 - Sukapaa! TV Guide

1/24 - Sukapaa! e2 TV Guide

1/24 - Gekkan Sukapaa!

1/27 - Cool-up Idol (Front cover)

2/2 - YanYan
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After all of that Mobekimasu promotion they had, I thought Up Front was going to step up their promotion game. Maybe they're just trying to limit the public humiliation the girls go through by wearing these costumes on TV and in magazines?
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[quote name='cadmonkey' timestamp='1326498013' post='116169']

After all of that Mobekimasu promotion they had, I thought Up Front was going to step up their promotion game. Maybe they're just trying to limit the public humiliation the girls go through by wearing these costumes on TV and in magazines?

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I wonder if UFA just has limited funds, and they used up all their H!P money for the Mobekimasu single and the jdrama.
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Well, hitting up the kids shows would be perfect for them.
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