Brainstorming + Kimi Sae Ireba nani mo Iranai - Morning Musume's Swan Song to Reina

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I was watching Kimi Sae Ireba nani mo Iranai again and for some reason I feel like Sakura is going to be the next Ai-chan. Just the way she moves and the voice and stuff. It's just this video though so maybe not.
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"Kimi Sae" is awesome *-* And Ikuta looks lovely~ <3 I especially like how Ikuta/Kudo and then Suzuki/Iikubo get to be in the front for the chorus.
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[quote name='Mugi' timestamp='1363414073' post='147021']

I was watching Kimi Sae Ireba nani mo Iranai again and for some reason I feel like Sakura is going to be the next Ai-chan. Just the way she moves and the voice and stuff. It's just this video though so maybe not.

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I get that impression from Brainstorming, so nope she's just diva like that. Someone(s) said she's channeling her inner Gaki or something, but girlfriend screams Ai at me.
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Sakura has a few of Takahashi's mannerisms that she didn't develop until later in her Musume career. (I noticed it during the live of Brainstorming) She's going to be used in the same capacity as both Takahashi and Risa, at least for now.
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She's did Ai's signature face touch move and she instantly reminded me of her.
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She TOTALLY does the Takahashi man voice in her second line. It was like a blast from the past.



Two b-side recordings from the concert:

Rock no Teigi



Tokimeku tokimeke
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I was not looking forward to Tokimeku Tokimeke (for obvious reasons), but I actually might love it, ha ha. Except for that hideous solo line towards the end. Not sure who that was, but ouch.



Rock no Teigi sounds like Watashi no Jidai during one part, but I like it a lot, too.
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The "Watashi no Jidai" sound is very prominent in parts of "Rock no Teigi".

I like it, but I probably won't listen to it anymore until there's a high quality recording, or when the single releases.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1363453286' post='147068']

Two b-side recordings from the concert:

Rock no Teigi



Tokimeku tokimeke

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I like these a lot better than the other songs so far. Tokimeku Tokimeke sounds kind of para-para, and despite Mizuki being the only member that is pleasant to listen to, it works really well. Whoever that last solo is by (Haruna?) sounded just bad though <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> Rock no Teigi reminded me of something from Utena in the verses. Not so much once it hits the bridge, though, but I really like the chorus. Looking forward to hear the recordings of these.
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[quote name='Banana' timestamp='1363458150' post='147079']

I was not looking forward to Tokimeku Tokimeke (for obvious reasons), but I actually might love it, ha ha. Except for that hideous solo line towards the end. Not sure who that was, but ouch.



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That line sounded like Ayumi to me. I didn't think it sounded that painful (it was a terrible attempt though), maybe because it didn't sound like they were trying all that hard to belt it out.
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I'm waiting anxiously for the Itsumo to Onnaji Seifuku de radio rip/preview :3 Not fair that it wasn't recorded too~



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I prefer Tokimeku myself. Itsumo feels like just another bland genki track.
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HAHA ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEEEEE. Of course Haruka and Zukki once again get stuck in the generic genki song for shitty singers track. I am so tired of this, tbh. I haven't seen a member with a good voice get this screwed since Linlin and Makoto.
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Give it a few years, and I'm sure they'll get better songs. It's just UFA capitalizing on their extra-young ages.



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Or maybe when the new auditions inevitably get some mega 10-year-old babies in the group they'll get more "mature" songs.
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They'll add a ten year old and give her a solo line in Kimagure Princess, since that song is NEVER going away. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... lesson.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lesson:' />
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After a few more listens to "Kimi Sae Ireba nani mo Iranai" I've decided that I really like the first half of the verses a lot. The vocodered parts are especially interesting, and the only part I find offensively pedestrian is the eight bars leading into the chorus. Hell, I don't even mind the chorus that much anymore.



So yeah, repeated listening = I really like this song overall. This is a really bold arrangement, and it's ballsy for an established and resurgent girl group to be testing a fusion of honest club-techno and idol pop (as opposed to simply dropping tried-and-true techno sounds into tried-and-true pop arrangements.) If they continue in this vein it'll be the most exciting development in the history of Morning Musume since the Golden Age.
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Rock no Teigi has an embarrassingly awful arrangement, very much like most of their recent music. Its hard to listen to those grating synths. The progressions and melodies are as boring and typical as you can get for Tsunku electro-crap.



Tokimeku Tokimeke was amazing until they started singing the verse, then the bridge was really good, then the chorus was a huge anti-climatic letdown, then the interlude was great. It just kept going up and down. Still probably the best song they've released in a year, though, even if its only half decent <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' /> If the vocals on the studio recording aren't as irritating as they are on that fan recording, this may actually be listenable.
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[quote name='Haru' timestamp='1363476305' post='147110']

So I was right, another listen to Brainstorming after some time I ended up loving it and now I'm replaying it. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /crazy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':crazy:' />

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Lets hope it's because they're giving us something good.
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^ LMAO that was a good one.



I'm whoring Brainstorming. Its title really means something this time, since I hear like 3 different songs in it from the last singles.



The too-long-title-to-remember song is... there. I listen to it, the beat is nice, but it doesn't stick. Oh, well.
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[quote name='Anderei' timestamp='1363586100' post='147235']

They'll add a ten year old and give her a solo line in Kimagure Princess, since that song is NEVER going away. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... lesson.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lesson:' />

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ISN'T IT NICE? SLIGHTLY EROTIC TEARS.



Creepiest. Line. Ever.









ANyway I can't stand Reina's voice so I can't stand "Rock no Teigi". "Tokimeku Tokimeke" was pretty good besides that unfortunate solo that was mentioned (and I love Ayumi but...). "Itsumo to Onnaji Seifuku" reminds me of like 90s anime theme song or something?



I don't love any of these enough to buy this single though.
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This is one of the most interesting J-idol releases since Nakata Yasutaka refined Perfume's sound around 2006.
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Finally listened to the b-sides, and if I could have my way, there'd be no performance of Tokimeku without a massive mosh pit. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/jam.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':jam:' />



Rock no Teigi is all right, Itsumo to is meh.
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[quote name='JPope' timestamp='1363625177' post='147275']

This is one of the most interesting J-idol releases since Nakata Yasutaka refined Perfume's sound around 2006.

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Out of how many idol groups that you listen to? 4?
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^ Really? Out of all the ways you could've responded to that? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /frown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':frown:' />



Rock no Teigi is pretty cool! The arrangement sounds simple enough, but catchy. Tokimeku is cool too, but the chorus is a lot better than the verses. Hell, I'd probably say both are better than Kimi sae and Brainstorming if we had better rips.
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[quote name='The☆AEUGNewtype' timestamp='1363631655' post='147288']

[quote name='JPope' timestamp='1363625177' post='147275']

This is one of the most interesting J-idol releases since Nakata Yasutaka refined Perfume's sound around 2006.

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Out of how many idol groups that you listen to? 4?

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Ha ha! Rather than offer examples to counter my assertion, you go with the ad hominem attack. Your act is as stale as Tsunku from 2005 - 2011. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... nceman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':danceman:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /lmfao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... wheely.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wheely:' /> <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... popper.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':popper:' />
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[quote name='The☆AEUGNewtype' timestamp='1363631655' post='147288']

[quote name='JPope' timestamp='1363625177' post='147275']

This is one of the most interesting J-idol releases since Nakata Yasutaka refined Perfume's sound around 2006.

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Out of how many idol groups that you listen to? 4?

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Oh for fuck's sake. We asked you both privately and in the open, but you just can't help yourself, can you? Well, come back in a month or so, and please remember your chill pills before you do.





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This is what I think about this single:


  • I love Brainstorming, both the song and the dance.
  • I think the other A-side is crap. The singing, the arrangement, the auto-tune. IT'S ALL HORRIBLE. Thank goodness the dance is interesting.
  • I don't care about b-sides because they don't give me PVs to watch and analyze.


I won't buy it since I don't purchase much Jpop anymore, but I hope they do well in sales. They really DO deserve to sell, they're talented and amazing girls. Except for Reina.
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