The Official Unofficial Kenshuusei Guide + News Source

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(To be honest I mixed up Ichioka and Inoue, my bad.) Other than that, I might have thought of her because she's the next most senior to Ichioka and Kaga.
 
I agree with what you said about Kaga, though. Additionally it seems like the Japanese fandom doesn't find her too cute (which apparently seems to be the most important factor now).
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She isn't on your list but Onoda Saori has basically been getting the Karin pre-debut anime treatment so I wouldn't be surprised to see her picked. She's still young enough that they could throw her into a new group if one comes out in the next couple of years.


I can't really look at the trainees and say that this girl is what they're looking for, especially after 12th gen. Maria and Akane weren't really Kenshuusei unknowns but neither one was anywhere near the best the program had to offer the way Sakura was at the time. Most of the girls who were the best of the bunch either left or ended up in the other groups (except Tsubaki, I'll forever maintain they only debuted them to keep them from leaving).
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I think Kaga should stay around long enough to add to Angerme. Angerme is really on high performance levels, and Kaga and Meimi kind of resemble each other depending on angle. But besides that Kaga and Takase just need to go somewhere.
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If they pick any of the girls I think it'll be either from the last two generations. (24th please, Half of 25th still look like train wrecks.)


I'd like Ruru of course. Bias.
 
They could easily make a new UF group, not necessarily a H!P group. They have CBC, Up Up Girls, Bitter and Sweet, Lovendor and now Miya's group. It's obvious they are starting to make groups outside of H!P and build their selves up as something other than Hello!Project and a few of these other acts. So I could see the older more well trained girls going into that route. If they want to stick around and don't give up. 
 
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Kaga, Onoda, Hashimoto, Shimano, Ono, and Kanatsu are going to be the opening act for Juice=Juice's tour
 
Aslo it seems like Kana Mikame had joined some performance troupe? - http://gekidan-sozo.main.jp/members/kana.html
 
 
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Order of the girls and songs they'll perform at the 5/5 Shindan Test
 
Akiyama - Karada Dake ga Otona ni Nattan ja nai
Takase - Moonlight night ~Tsukiyo no Ban da yo~
Ono K. - Akai Freesia
Inoue - Sayonara Usotsuki no Watashi
Kodama - Yumemiru Fifteen
Noguchi - Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe
Kaga - KoiING
Maeda - SHOCK!
Kasahara - Itoshiku Kurushii Kono Yoru ni
Onoda - Watarasebashi
Yonemura - The Matenrou Show
Danbara - Hatsukoi Cider
Horie - Kiss me Aishiteru
Nakano - Yattaruchan
Yokogawa - Momoiro Kataomoi
Shimano - Crazy Kanzen na Otona
Hashimoto - Daite yo! PLEASE GO ON
Ono M. - Romantic Ukare Mode
Kanatsu - Inspiration!
Ichioka - Glass no Pumps
Kiyono - Tsumetai Kaze to Kataomoi
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[quote="Solarblade"]
Order of the girls and songs they'll perform at the 5/5 Shindan Test
 
Akiyama - Karada Dake ga Otona ni Nattan ja nai
Takase - Moonlight night ~Tsukiyo no Ban da yo~
Ono K. - Akai Freesia
Inoue - Sayonara Usotsuki no Watashi
Kodama - Yumemiru Fifteen
Noguchi - Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe
Kaga - KoiING
Maeda - SHOCK!
Kasahara - Itoshiku Kurushii Kono Yoru ni
Onoda - Watarasebashi
Yonemura - The Matenrou Show
Danbara - Hatsukoi Cider
Horie - Kiss me Aishiteru
Nakano - Yattaruchan
Yokogawa - Momoiro Kataomoi
Shimano - Crazy Kanzen na Otona
Hashimoto - Daite yo! PLEASE GO ON
Ono M. - Romantic Ukare Mode
Kanatsu - Inspiration!
Ichioka - Glass no Pumps
Kiyono - Tsumetai Kaze to Kataomoi
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That is quite the list. I'd love to see the full performance from each girl. Hope my girl Danbara lands those Buono lines ;)
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Solarblade" data-cid="197131" data-time="1461942103">
Danbara - Hatsukoi Cider
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1. Say! Hello! - KSS
2. Watashi ga Obasan ni Nattemo - Tsubaki Factory
3. Sakura Night Fever - Kobushi Factory
 
4-24 - TEST
 
25. Seishun Manmannaka! - Tsubaki Factory
26. Chotto Guchoku ni! Chototsu Moushin - Kobushi Factory
27. Oheso no Kuni Kara Konnichiwa - Hirose, Fujii, Ogawa, Hamaura, Taguchi, Wada, Yamagishi, Ogata, Niinuma, Tanimoto, Ichioka, Kaga, Yokogawa, Danbara, Hashimoto, Horie, Shimano
28. Onna no Sono - Nomura, Inoue R., Kishimoto, Asakura, Inoue H., Onoda, Ono M., Nakano, Maeda, Akiyama, Kanatsu, Kasahara, Noguchi, Ono K., Kodama, Yonemura, Kiyono
29. Kanojo ni Naritai!!! - KSS
 
http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/member/kensyusei/news_Info.php?id=8369
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Results of the Recital (from AmaSusE@H!O)
 
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- Hikarun won the special Jury Prize: <a class="bbc_url" href="https://twitter.com/anztolchock/status/ ... 0646579204" title="External link">https://twitter.com/...168750646579204</a>
 
- Mao won Dance Award: <a class="bbc_url" href="https://twitter.com/anztolchock/status/ ... 5594765312" title="External link">https://twitter.com/...168985594765312</a>
 
- Kurumi won the Singing Award: <a class="bbc_url" href="https://twitter.com/anztolchock/status/ ... 8945117184" title="External link">https://twitter.com/...169268945117184</a>
 
- Best Performance: 228 votes for Momohime and Momona ... OMG?? ..Rule of the peaches lol Image ... <a class="bbc_url" href="https://twitter.com/tozamasan/status/728169768008617984" title="External link">https://twitter.com/...169768008617984</a>
 3rd place with 225 votes: Kurumi: <a class="bbc_url" href="https://twitter.com/robanomimisoji/stat ... 1337984%29" title="External link">https://twitter.com/...170830631337984</a>
 
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Someone shared the recording : http://www.mediafire.com/?lx8kj6hl0rb3dg2
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Kurumi wasn't even that good to be honest. But maybe it's just the recording, because I was surprised how bad Ruru sounded in the beginning, too.
 
Yumei is beyond hope, but we all know that, I think.
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After listening to the whole thing at once, Watarasebashi (Onoda Saori) and Hatsukoi Cider (Danbara Ruru) were the ones I particularly liked.

I was hoping Momohime would be good at singing, in addition of being really cute and I haven't been disappointed with her Tsumetai Kaze to Kataomoi ; she needs to work on her falsetto but she was pretty good on the rest in my opinion. She's young so she has plenty of time to improve.
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Thoughts:
 
I'm glad Mao got the dance award, she's such a great dancer.
Onoda surprised me with her performance. Not to mention how she ended it, lol. I preferred her performance to Takase's--at least with no video. Her talking skills were pretty good, too... Even though she noted she was nervous.
Yonemura's singing wasn't particularly bad but The Matenrou Show needs more energy than what she gave it.
Danbara did well, as I suspected. I think she may have been a bit off guard since Hatsukoi Cider starts so suddenly.... But she's my #1 fav, so I'm very biased. I do think she sounded a bit screamy, though.
Nakano Rion is just sooo cute, she's really high in my Kenshuusei ranking.
Ono Mizuho did better than I thought she would. I haven't paid much attention to her.
Kiyono will probably be someone somewhat prominent in H!P by the time she debuts... She seems like that type of idol.
 
 
 
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Noguchi is an angel, and Nagisa+Kizuki stole my heart ages ago. 
 
I think we can all officially agree that there is no saving Yumei.
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I liked Akiyama's facial expressions a lot, and I know she's an awesome dancer (though they didn't show it on the digest.)
Kodama's outfit was funnier than I imagined from the recording--such a cute little tomato.
Noguchi was sooooooo beautiful. I'll definitely be watching her.
Disappointed with Kaga's performance.... She's been going down on my list for a while now, starting with her attitude.
Of course, Danbara rocked my socks off. Her expressions and movements were a leap and bound over what they were last year. I still felt like her voice was off, though.
Nakano Rion is just hnnnnngh.
Kanatsu was very cute, well put-together and seemed comfortable on stage.
 
 
Overall, the Kenshuusei's facial expressions were definitely better this time around.  Singing wise.... well....
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[quote="GaleKakumei"]
Noguchi is an angel, and Nagisa+Kizuki stole my heart ages ago. 
 
I think we can all officially agree that there is no saving Yumei.
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You'd think that but I jut recently saw people talking about how much she's improved.
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Really? She has been my fave, but even I can't say she has improved much. She is only slightly better, but that is coming up from horrible to bad. 
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<div>Setlist for the upcoming performances on the 4th</div>
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<div>http://www.up-fc.jp/helloproject/member/egg/news_Info.php?id=8514</div>
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<div>1. Hello! Massara no Jibun - KSS</div>
<div>2a. 17sai - Tsubaki Factory (Osaka, Nagoya Day)</div>
<div>2b. Kedakaku Sakihokore! (Osaka, Nagoya Night)</div>
<div>3. TEKI - Kobushi Factory</div>
<div>4. Sakura Night Fever - Kobushi Factory</div>
<div>5a. Meguru Koi no Kisetsu - Ichioka, Inoue H., Danbara, Horie, Maeda, Akiyama (Days)</div>
<div>5b. Wakkyanai(Z) - Ichioka, Inoue H., Danbara, Horie, Maeda, Akiyama (Nights)</div>
<div>6. Suki na Senpai - Noguchi, Ono K., Kodama, Yonemura, Kiyono</div>
<div>7. Date ja Nai yo Uchi no Jinsei wa - Ogawa, Inoue R., Onoda, Ono M., Kanatsu</div>
<div>8a. Karada Dake ga Otona ni Nattan ja Nai - Akiyama (Days)</div>
<div>8b. Sayonara Usotsuki na Watashi - Inoue H. (Nights)</div>
<div>9. Itoshiku Kurushii Kono Yoru ni - Kasahara</div>
<div>10. Tsumetai Kaze to Kataomoi - Kiyono</div>
<div>11. Dondengaeshi - Hirose, Nomura, Hamaura, Niinuma, Tanimoto, Ichioka, Kaga, Inoue H., Yokogawa, Danbara, Onoda, Horie, Shimano</div>
<div>12. VERY BEAUTY - Hamaura, Ogawa, Inoue R., Niinuma with Ogata, Kishimoto, Asakura, Kaga (Tsubaki members only Osaka and Nagoya)</div>
<div>13. Gag 100kaibun Aishite Kudasai - Hirose, Fujii, Nomura, Taguchi, Wada, Tanimoto</div>
<div>14. Maji Desu ka Ska! - Inoue H., Yokogawa, Danbara, Onoda, Akiyama, Noguchi, Kodama, Yonemura</div>
<div>15. Mystery Night! - Ichioka, Kaga, Horie, Shimano, Ono M., Maeda, Kanatsu, Ono K., Kiyono</div>
<div>16. "Idol wa Robot" tte Showa no Hanashi ne - Tsubaki Factory, Kaga, Inoue H., Danbara, Onoda, Horie, Nakano, Kanatsu, Kasahara</div>
<div>17. Seishun Beat wa 16 - Kobushi Factory, Yokogawa, Shimano, Maeda, Akiyama, Kasahara</div>
<div>18. Aozora ga Itsumademo Tsuzuku You na Mirai de Are! - ALL</div>
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Kobushi needs to graduate from this already.
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Kenshuusei's new song is titled "Hello! Massara no Jibun" (Hello! まっさらの自分) - Fan Recording: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ajcr4a9pd36r39a/
 
Also the September shows have been announced
 
9/4 Zepp Tokyo
9/24 Zepp Namba
9/25 Zepp Nagoya
 
Better quality version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J-91g7O3Ac
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Not close up but it looks like they got pretty nice outfits this time around. They're usually pretty basic.
 
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Those look the outfits that they used for an H!P winter concert a couple years ago.
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^ My thoughts exactly. The ones with big lipstick, kisses, bags and shit on them.
 
Looking closely, that is them.
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[quote="Thea"]
^ My thoughts exactly. The ones with big lipstick, kisses, bags and shit on them.
 
Looking closely, that is them.
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I thought that was them!!!!
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So Kobushi graduated from the KSS program.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TicTacAnyone" data-cid="198049" data-time="1465595719"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Thea" data-cid="198034" data-time="1465546062">
^ My thoughts exactly. The ones with big lipstick, kisses, bags and shit on them.


Looking closely, that is them.</blockquote>


I thought that was them!!!!</blockquote>
To 100% confirm this, I saw the pictures of Ruru and Kaede wearing them and Ruru had one of C-ute's with a big yellow '℃' on it, and Kaede had Berryz with a blue 'B'.
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There was a recap of the recital in the recent issue of Top Yell. An excerpt a MM tumblr translated:
 
 
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">――さて、先日の「公開実力診断テスト」についてお伺いします。 総括すると、いかがでしたか?
– Well, I’d like to ask you about the Kenshuusei’s Open Trial held on the other day. How do you summarize that event?
 
まこと:いや~、いろいろ考えさせられましたね。なので、 総括すると疲れました(笑)。全体的な印象としては、 「研修生の中でもキャリアを積んでいる人が、新しい人に負けた日」 といったところかな。
Makoto: Well, I was made to think about various things that day. So it’s quite tiring to summarize it. (laughs) My general impression would be “the day the veterans got defeated by the rookies” or something like that.
 
――世代交代ということですか?
– Do you mean an alternation of generations is taking place in Kenshuusei?
 
まこと:いや、世代交代ではない。あの日は、たまたまそうだったというだけの話で。要するに、キャリア組が大きなミスを犯してしまったということです。若い人たちの引き立て役になってしまった。
Makoto: No, it’s not the alternation of generations. It just happened by chance on that day. In other words, the veterans made a very big mistake, so that they happened to end up foils to the rookies.
 
――キャリア組というのは、具体的には加賀楓さんや井上ひかるさんといったところですよね。
– The veterans you’re talking about will be Kaga Kaede-san and Inoue Hikaru-san and someone.
 
まこと:そうです。3年前後っている人たちのこと。あの日、 彼女たちは「ハロプロ研修生とはどういうものか?」ということを 見失っていたように僕からは見えました。 
Makoto: That’s right. Trainees who have longer career of around 3 years. That day, they seemed to have lost sight of “what is Haropuro Kenshuusei in the first place” to me.
 
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More fuel for the 'Kaga, Ichioka and Inoue are never debuting' fire lol.
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DAMNNNN HE STRAIGHT CALLED THEM OUT.
 
Though I think we all feel that way about Kaga lol
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