Beckii Cruel
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It's kind of ridiculous how people are treating her - tracking down her twitter and formspring to send things to her about how she's going to end up in porn/prostitution in a few years and how her family are horrible people. I know people do this shit all the time but it doesn't make it right. Grown ass, jealous otaku women picking on a 14 year old who, judging by her twitter and such, is actually pretty intelligent.
Re: Beckii Cruel
[quote name='Ang' post='76957' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:39 PM']It's kind of ridiculous how people are treating her - tracking down her twitter and formspring to send things to her about how she's going to end up in porn/prostitution in a few years and how her family are horrible people. I know people do this shit all the time but it doesn't make it right. Grown ass, jealous otaku women picking on a 14 year old who, judging by her twitter and such, is actually pretty intelligent.[/quote]
That is pretty sad and unfair. Although, I wouldn't reduce it ALL to jealousy because it presumes that all women simply aspire to be 14 year old otaku stars <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />. I'd imagine that some people are frustrated that so many would-be starlets feed into the kind of sexist expectations that the entertainment industry sets up. In those cases though, I want to shake the haters and say: what the hell is accomplished by internet-bullying a kid? If you want to protest the industry, you should aim your anger at the creepy johns that consume that stuff or use your money to support more progressive forms of entertainment.
Also, there is a degree of scary protectionism from otaku (Japanese or non-Japanese) who are uncomfortable with a white, British girl entering the rather conservative-dominated realms of 2ch fandom. Remember how pissed people were because "OMG Chinese girls" were joining MM?
As for those who ARE jealous...well, these girls still win out in the end. I remember Amerika-jin Musume also got her fair share of hater-stalkers who were obsessed with just tearing her down. In the end though, she got on tv, she got modeling deals, and she got to spend a few years of her youth pursuing something wonderfully glamorous and exciting. Good for her.
I hope this girl lives through her sudden fame with some ways to branch out of it, and not die in obscurity once the fad ends or she turns 20 (aka too old). She's cute - she might become a model at least.
That is pretty sad and unfair. Although, I wouldn't reduce it ALL to jealousy because it presumes that all women simply aspire to be 14 year old otaku stars <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />. I'd imagine that some people are frustrated that so many would-be starlets feed into the kind of sexist expectations that the entertainment industry sets up. In those cases though, I want to shake the haters and say: what the hell is accomplished by internet-bullying a kid? If you want to protest the industry, you should aim your anger at the creepy johns that consume that stuff or use your money to support more progressive forms of entertainment.
Also, there is a degree of scary protectionism from otaku (Japanese or non-Japanese) who are uncomfortable with a white, British girl entering the rather conservative-dominated realms of 2ch fandom. Remember how pissed people were because "OMG Chinese girls" were joining MM?
As for those who ARE jealous...well, these girls still win out in the end. I remember Amerika-jin Musume also got her fair share of hater-stalkers who were obsessed with just tearing her down. In the end though, she got on tv, she got modeling deals, and she got to spend a few years of her youth pursuing something wonderfully glamorous and exciting. Good for her.
I hope this girl lives through her sudden fame with some ways to branch out of it, and not die in obscurity once the fad ends or she turns 20 (aka too old). She's cute - she might become a model at least.
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[quote name='PQ' post='76894' date='Mar 9 2010, 04:33 PM']This could have gone in the MM Chat section but this seems more fitting.
Sayumi and Beckii together on YouTube.[/quote]
Well, I thought this was really cute. Really awkward given the language barrier, but it's warmed me up to Beckii, so I'm somewhere near thawing rather than just coldly apathetic. Must be the Sayumi effect.
Sayumi and Beckii together on YouTube.[/quote]
Well, I thought this was really cute. Really awkward given the language barrier, but it's warmed me up to Beckii, so I'm somewhere near thawing rather than just coldly apathetic. Must be the Sayumi effect.
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[quote name='eri' post='76960' date='Mar 11 2010, 05:27 PM'][quote name='Ang' post='76957' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:39 PM']It's kind of ridiculous how people are treating her - tracking down her twitter and formspring to send things to her about how she's going to end up in porn/prostitution in a few years and how her family are horrible people. I know people do this shit all the time but it doesn't make it right. Grown ass, jealous otaku women picking on a 14 year old who, judging by her twitter and such, is actually pretty intelligent.[/quote]
That is pretty sad and unfair. Although, I wouldn't reduce it ALL to jealousy because it presumes that all women simply aspire to be 14 year old otaku stars <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />. I'd imagine that some people are frustrated that so many would-be starlets feed into the kind of sexist expectations that the entertainment industry sets up. In those cases though, I want to shake the haters and say: what the hell is accomplished by internet-bullying a kid? If you want to protest the industry, you should aim your anger at the creepy johns that consume that stuff or use your money to support more progressive forms of entertainment.
Also, there is a degree of scary protectionism from otaku (Japanese or non-Japanese) who are uncomfortable with a white, British girl entering the rather conservative-dominated realms of 2ch fandom. Remember how pissed people were because "OMG Chinese girls" were joining MM?
As for those who ARE jealous...well, these girls still win out in the end. I remember Amerika-jin Musume also got her fair share of hater-stalkers who were obsessed with just tearing her down. In the end though, she got on tv, she got modeling deals, and she got to spend a few years of her youth pursuing something wonderfully glamorous and exciting. Good for her.
I hope this girl lives through her sudden fame with some ways to branch out of it, and not die in obscurity once the fad ends or she turns 20 (aka too old). She's cute - she might become a model at least.
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Well, I just feel like someone simply irritated at the idol industry exploiting these girls in general wouldn't be sending her hate mail about how she's a dirty gutter slut XD the language people are using is green with envy, imo. Plus I've seen almost all of it coming from white girls who ALSO dance/sing on youtube.
She definitely does win in the end, though. I've read her twitter and such and she has a very admirable "haters gonna hate" kind of attitude which, if I were to envy anything about her, I'd envy that. She's planning for college and still going through high school so I think she knows that she's probably going to be a one hit wonder, even she said "Yeah, my single didn't sell well at all, but I know I'm not a singer." Also, LOL. She seems to know what's up.
That is pretty sad and unfair. Although, I wouldn't reduce it ALL to jealousy because it presumes that all women simply aspire to be 14 year old otaku stars <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... /laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />. I'd imagine that some people are frustrated that so many would-be starlets feed into the kind of sexist expectations that the entertainment industry sets up. In those cases though, I want to shake the haters and say: what the hell is accomplished by internet-bullying a kid? If you want to protest the industry, you should aim your anger at the creepy johns that consume that stuff or use your money to support more progressive forms of entertainment.
Also, there is a degree of scary protectionism from otaku (Japanese or non-Japanese) who are uncomfortable with a white, British girl entering the rather conservative-dominated realms of 2ch fandom. Remember how pissed people were because "OMG Chinese girls" were joining MM?
As for those who ARE jealous...well, these girls still win out in the end. I remember Amerika-jin Musume also got her fair share of hater-stalkers who were obsessed with just tearing her down. In the end though, she got on tv, she got modeling deals, and she got to spend a few years of her youth pursuing something wonderfully glamorous and exciting. Good for her.
I hope this girl lives through her sudden fame with some ways to branch out of it, and not die in obscurity once the fad ends or she turns 20 (aka too old). She's cute - she might become a model at least.
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Well, I just feel like someone simply irritated at the idol industry exploiting these girls in general wouldn't be sending her hate mail about how she's a dirty gutter slut XD the language people are using is green with envy, imo. Plus I've seen almost all of it coming from white girls who ALSO dance/sing on youtube.
She definitely does win in the end, though. I've read her twitter and such and she has a very admirable "haters gonna hate" kind of attitude which, if I were to envy anything about her, I'd envy that. She's planning for college and still going through high school so I think she knows that she's probably going to be a one hit wonder, even she said "Yeah, my single didn't sell well at all, but I know I'm not a singer." Also, LOL. She seems to know what's up.
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Re: Beckii Cruel
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
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all the money money money just make it out to downsy
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Did we know she's getting a photobook?
Called まるごとベッキー, out late this month.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-737947
Called まるごとベッキー, out late this month.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-737947
What's the first thing you do when you return home after a concert?
LinLin: "I stop thinking and stare into nothingness."
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[quote name='Em-El' post='78272' date='Apr 6 2010, 07:35 AM']Did we know she's getting a photobook?[/quote]
Now we do!
Still don't know if want, but her gig with Sayumi and (mainly) reading through her what's-it-called answers thingy warmed me up to her. So for good or for bad, previews (or just release scans now?)!
Actually surprisingly a lot of good styling and good photos. Any takers? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
Now we do!
Still don't know if want, but her gig with Sayumi and (mainly) reading through her what's-it-called answers thingy warmed me up to her. So for good or for bad, previews (or just release scans now?)!
Actually surprisingly a lot of good styling and good photos. Any takers? <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... hawhaw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
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Besides Sayumi, she also got to hang out with some more H!P girls:
Risako's just too cool for school.
Risako's just too cool for school.
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What's the first thing you do when you return home after a concert?
LinLin: "I stop thinking and stare into nothingness."
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She's a very pretty girl imo. Too bad she can't really sing or dance, lol. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />
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Hey she's such a cute girl with her bunny-ear headband! However, Mano is still cuter sitting next to her haha. She's no Leah Dizon but she fits a certain dreamy image that I bet anime/etc nerds gun for.
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I just wish she'd show more enthusiasm. I don't know if it's an act or she's genuinely like that, but it always seems like she's just kind of ho-hum whenever she's on some TV show or event.
And normally I'm kind of meh about Beckii, but this made me want to high-five her kinda. http://bit.ly/aCrBE1
And normally I'm kind of meh about Beckii, but this made me want to high-five her kinda. http://bit.ly/aCrBE1
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Thread bump because I'm a bitch!
Beckii attempted Run Devil Run. It sucks. Much lulz were had.
Run Devil Run
Before I was kind of neutral to her, since ok she was pretty cute doing all those H!P dances or whatever, but now that she's attempted a more difficult dance... well. The results were not pleasant. It's inaccurate and lacks sharpness, so a. props to SNSD for executing a difficult dance b. anti-props? to Beckii for not being able to do it.
Beckii attempted Run Devil Run. It sucks. Much lulz were had.
Run Devil Run
Before I was kind of neutral to her, since ok she was pretty cute doing all those H!P dances or whatever, but now that she's attempted a more difficult dance... well. The results were not pleasant. It's inaccurate and lacks sharpness, so a. props to SNSD for executing a difficult dance b. anti-props? to Beckii for not being able to do it.
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I think it's adorable. She dances way better than I ever could, and she is adorable. Plus her dress is really cute.
<p style="text-align:center;">我最爱你。你是我的太阳。
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Double post but I just. Died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrMtaPCQcg
Sarah Cruel, who's like 4 or something, giving updates on the girls.
The other Sarah went to see Morning Moosom in Paris, and another girl will be dancing to Yume muru.
So look forward!
GTFA from Beckii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrMtaPCQcg
Sarah Cruel, who's like 4 or something, giving updates on the girls.
The other Sarah went to see Morning Moosom in Paris, and another girl will be dancing to Yume muru.
So look forward!
GTFA from Beckii
<p style="text-align:center;">我最爱你。你是我的太阳。
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Wait, Ms. Cruel! MechaCon is in New Orleans now? And Mari Iijima is gonna be there??
and Carl Macek was gonna be there. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D/' />
I love these Cruel Angel things. Do the Japanese fans even know they exist? They are there... for something? Does Sierra have a wota? I hope she has one lonely Japanese dude wota.
and Carl Macek was gonna be there. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D/' />
I love these Cruel Angel things. Do the Japanese fans even know they exist? They are there... for something? Does Sierra have a wota? I hope she has one lonely Japanese dude wota.
What's the first thing you do when you return home after a concert?
LinLin: "I stop thinking and stare into nothingness."
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Pretty sure Beckii is the only one any one gives a shit about. Maybe Gemma and the original Sarah have some because they're 'Cruel Angels' and were in the single.
And some have been in some xacti shit, but yeah basically Beckii is cute and perfect and she's the only one anyone cares about.
And some have been in some xacti shit, but yeah basically Beckii is cute and perfect and she's the only one anyone cares about.
<p style="text-align:center;">我最爱你。你是我的太阳。
Re: Beckii Cruel
If you live in the UK, BBC3 is showing "Beckii: Schoolgirl Superstar at 14" on Thursday 12th August at 21:00.