Morning Musume - Seishun Collection
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The Normal is pretty nice.
Limited A is all right. I like the idea, but everyone posing exactly the same? No.
Limited B is hot, but tone down the hard light layer, boys.
Limited C is just utterly boring.
[quote name='Tsunki']And Junjun's face makes laugh in the Limited A, those cheeks![/quote]
Can we say KONKON?
Limited A is all right. I like the idea, but everyone posing exactly the same? No.
Limited B is hot, but tone down the hard light layer, boys.
Limited C is just utterly boring.
[quote name='Tsunki']And Junjun's face makes laugh in the Limited A, those cheeks![/quote]
Can we say KONKON?
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I love all the covers!!! Ai-chan looks amazing in all of them <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... #>/wub.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />
But they all look wonderful^^
They all really do look nice!
But they all look wonderful^^
They all really do look nice!
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They all look amazing especially since LinLin looks fierce in all of them. I think the covers are getting better. My favorite has to be B. The normal for some reason reminds me of My Humps.
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
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This looks like the most effort they've put into cover design and composition for a very long time.
As hideous as the outfit colors are, I almost don't mind it when I see the way they used this palette in the title & group name.
I see this text as an interesting t-shirt, wristband or towel design. I'd buy it.
I like how Cover A is divided, and I like the presentation of the name and title on this CD the most.
For cover B, the image is amazingly dynamic. I also like how they realized that it would be impossible to stick the title on without adding a different set of colors (actually, they could have just put it exclusively on the obi and made the background black, ah well.) I expect this to look more polished up close, it looks kind of "pirated Chinatown CD" at the moment.
Cover C: Don't let the bright HAPPY colors fool you, Takahashi is about to kick someone's ass. Looks like a shot from a PV, a very blank and all too familiar style of PV.
Regular Edition is great because it actually puts them in the context of a space, with interesting reflections.
The Single V is simple, yet fun.
With the makeup and the BRIGHT COLORS
...this really should have been the promo design for Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai
I REALLY want to edit these outfit colors to something that human eyes can handle, (make one side neutral).
I will, when I have time...
As hideous as the outfit colors are, I almost don't mind it when I see the way they used this palette in the title & group name.
I see this text as an interesting t-shirt, wristband or towel design. I'd buy it.
I like how Cover A is divided, and I like the presentation of the name and title on this CD the most.
For cover B, the image is amazingly dynamic. I also like how they realized that it would be impossible to stick the title on without adding a different set of colors (actually, they could have just put it exclusively on the obi and made the background black, ah well.) I expect this to look more polished up close, it looks kind of "pirated Chinatown CD" at the moment.
Cover C: Don't let the bright HAPPY colors fool you, Takahashi is about to kick someone's ass. Looks like a shot from a PV, a very blank and all too familiar style of PV.
Regular Edition is great because it actually puts them in the context of a space, with interesting reflections.
The Single V is simple, yet fun.
With the makeup and the BRIGHT COLORS
...this really should have been the promo design for Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai
I REALLY want to edit these outfit colors to something that human eyes can handle, (make one side neutral).
I will, when I have time...
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[quote name='jpop4eva' post='79960' date='May 19 2010, 07:51 PM']They all look amazing especially since LinLin looks fierce in all of them. I think the covers are getting better. My favorite has to be B. The normal for some reason reminds me of My Humps.
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
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This one looks the best imho, with Normal being a close second.
B also looks quite cool (it's basically V without lipsticks), except for Eri's glowing nails.
A is weird, it'd rather fit as a Perfume cover.
C is utter crap.
I really like the lime/green/blue theme. It's different than the usual two-color things (covers and costumes) they often have.
I find it ridiculous however that there are actually 5 fucking version of this. (I've probably said this the last few singles too)
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
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This one looks the best imho, with Normal being a close second.
B also looks quite cool (it's basically V without lipsticks), except for Eri's glowing nails.
A is weird, it'd rather fit as a Perfume cover.
C is utter crap.
I really like the lime/green/blue theme. It's different than the usual two-color things (covers and costumes) they often have.
I find it ridiculous however that there are actually 5 fucking version of this. (I've probably said this the last few singles too)
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The covers alone are almost tempting enough for me to really get back into them.
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[quote name='jpop4eva' post='79960' date='May 19 2010, 01:51 PM']They all look amazing especially since LinLin looks fierce in all of them. I think the covers are getting better. My favorite has to be B. The normal for some reason reminds me of My Humps.
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
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Hey, here's the makeup the brushes were missing in "Onna ga!"
I like Single V, but wtf is up with that face Eri's putting on?
P.S. I found the cover of the Single V
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Hey, here's the makeup the brushes were missing in "Onna ga!"
I like Single V, but wtf is up with that face Eri's putting on?
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All of the covers are interesting inn different ways and that's why all of them fail; they are covers for the same record and they are all completely separate.
A would be a really good cover if they did a sort of Let Forever Be-sort of thing.
B is overly done. Remember what Coco said: "Accessorize yourself for the day and take one thing off." If they just toned the hard light down, they wouldn't have made MorningMusume209's fan cover.
I like the photo for C, but it seems more suited for a promo poster. It is nice to see a decently photoshopped group shot of all of them. You can tell from how abnormally big the shadows are (compare the shadow coming from Reina's left leg to her right leg to the shadow coming from her right leg to Eri; the light would have to be near perpendicular to the frame of the photo and it definitely is not).
The normal cover is a decent backdrop, but it seems more suited for Japan's Next Dance Crew rather than Musumo. Also, put your arms down!
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A would be a really good cover if they did a sort of Let Forever Be-sort of thing.
B is overly done. Remember what Coco said: "Accessorize yourself for the day and take one thing off." If they just toned the hard light down, they wouldn't have made MorningMusume209's fan cover.
I like the photo for C, but it seems more suited for a promo poster. It is nice to see a decently photoshopped group shot of all of them. You can tell from how abnormally big the shadows are (compare the shadow coming from Reina's left leg to her right leg to the shadow coming from her right leg to Eri; the light would have to be near perpendicular to the frame of the photo and it definitely is not).
The normal cover is a decent backdrop, but it seems more suited for Japan's Next Dance Crew rather than Musumo. Also, put your arms down!
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[quote name='jpop4eva' post='79960' date='May 19 2010, 01:51 PM']P.S. I found the cover of the Single V[/quote]
I love it when people take pictures of them "putting on makeup" when their faces are already made up and they're not wearing the colors they have in their hands hahahaha
I love it when people take pictures of them "putting on makeup" when their faces are already made up and they're not wearing the colors they have in their hands hahahaha
Re: Morning Musume - Seishun Collection
Here's a 30 sec preview commercial of the PV.
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Re: Morning Musume - Seishun Collection
[quote name='jpop4eva' post='79989' date='May 21 2010, 05:03 AM']Here's a 30 sec preview commercial of the PV.[/quote]
Seriously WTF, what is this? Canary Club? Looks like rubbish.
Cute song but whatever, NEXT SINGLE PLZ.
Seriously WTF, what is this? Canary Club? Looks like rubbish.
Cute song but whatever, NEXT SINGLE PLZ.
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[quote name='jpop4eva' post='79989' date='May 20 2010, 09:03 PM']Here's a 30 sec preview commercial of the PV.[/quote]
Jochin's comment made me expect worse. It wasn't bad, except for the generic song of course.
Man, Aika's face is huge.
Jochin's comment made me expect worse. It wasn't bad, except for the generic song of course.
Man, Aika's face is huge.
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
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There's going to be the Official Version and the Seishun Ver.-type2- which will be on the SingleV.
On the Limited C version of the single you'll have the Seishun Ver.-type1-.
And on the Limited A version of the single will be the Dance shot and on Limited B will be the Close-up PV.
Mix it all together and you might get a decent PV. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... iggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' />
On the Limited C version of the single you'll have the Seishun Ver.-type1-.
And on the Limited A version of the single will be the Dance shot and on Limited B will be the Close-up PV.
Mix it all together and you might get a decent PV. <img src='http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... iggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmfao:' />
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The covers are awesome except for C, but I don't really get the PV. Maybe it's got something to do with the lyrics, but the football field is throwing me off.
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I think the PV would look better if the colors of their outfits weren't so... Bright. I think it looks so awkward with them dancing on a football field wearing those types of clothes. It just doesnt look right at all.
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Bad PV. Good covers. That nromal edition cover is fucking slick. I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.
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[quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='79996' date='May 21 2010, 12:10 AM']I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.[/quote]
Why ?
Why ?
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
Re: Morning Musume - Seishun Collection
[quote name='Ap2000' post='79992' date='May 21 2010, 04:41 AM'][quote name='jpop4eva' post='79989' date='May 20 2010, 09:03 PM']Here's a 30 sec preview commercial of the PV.[/quote]
Jochin's comment made me expect worse. It wasn't bad, except for the generic song of course.
Man, Aika's face is huge.
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Yea lol, sorry Ap. Beige sofa and beige background and beige-everything-except-those-gaudy-outfits threw me off. The only thing this PV has going for it is good lightning. There's simply too little thought process behind it, and it's annoying.
At least the girls look happy.
Jochin's comment made me expect worse. It wasn't bad, except for the generic song of course.
Man, Aika's face is huge.
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Yea lol, sorry Ap. Beige sofa and beige background and beige-everything-except-those-gaudy-outfits threw me off. The only thing this PV has going for it is good lightning. There's simply too little thought process behind it, and it's annoying.
At least the girls look happy.
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Just pseudo-quoting from somebody else, "everyone is a brunette now except for Sayu". XD
Otherwise, I find the costumes don't look overly hideous now given the backdrop of the PV. It's like camouflage.
Otherwise, I find the costumes don't look overly hideous now given the backdrop of the PV. It's like camouflage.
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[quote name='Ap2000' post='80000' date='May 20 2010, 09:39 PM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='79996' date='May 21 2010, 12:10 AM']I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.[/quote]
Why ?
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...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
Why ?
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...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
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Isn't that some kind of marketing trick though?
I wouldn't be surprised if they gave the normal edition a generally better looking cover so that fans would be tempted to buy the LE's as well as the normal edition for the satisfaction of getting a nice cover either way.
Sneaky bastards.
I wouldn't be surprised if they gave the normal edition a generally better looking cover so that fans would be tempted to buy the LE's as well as the normal edition for the satisfaction of getting a nice cover either way.
Sneaky bastards.
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[quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='80007' date='May 21 2010, 04:48 AM'][quote name='Ap2000' post='80000' date='May 20 2010, 09:39 PM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='79996' date='May 21 2010, 12:10 AM']I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.[/quote]
Why ?
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...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
[/quote]
But this way you just can buy the cheaper standard edition and get the best cover !
Why ?
[/quote]
...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
[/quote]
But this way you just can buy the cheaper standard edition and get the best cover !
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
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The limited versions aren't that worth it, imo. They don't give all that much bang for your buck. But this is coming from me, the cheapest person alive.
Anyway, the PV looks thoughtless and like they just.. put very little effort into it at all, but it's inoffensive. At least they weren't as lazy as they were with, say, Pepper Keibu.
Anyway, the PV looks thoughtless and like they just.. put very little effort into it at all, but it's inoffensive. At least they weren't as lazy as they were with, say, Pepper Keibu.
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[quote name='Ap2000' post='80022' date='May 21 2010, 05:45 AM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='80007' date='May 21 2010, 04:48 AM'][quote name='Ap2000' post='80000' date='May 20 2010, 09:39 PM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='79996' date='May 21 2010, 12:10 AM']I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.[/quote]
Why ?
[/quote]
...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
[/quote]
But this way you just can buy the cheaper standard edition and get the best cover !
[/quote]
I'm not actually buying the CD because I am poor as fuck! :B I'm just sayin that if I was a wota in Japan and was shelling out the couple extra bucks for a lottery ticket/DVD/poster/whatever, it'd be nice if I got a better cover than someone who bought the normal edition.
Why ?
[/quote]
...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
[/quote]
But this way you just can buy the cheaper standard edition and get the best cover !
[/quote]
I'm not actually buying the CD because I am poor as fuck! :B I'm just sayin that if I was a wota in Japan and was shelling out the couple extra bucks for a lottery ticket/DVD/poster/whatever, it'd be nice if I got a better cover than someone who bought the normal edition.
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[quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='80025' date='May 21 2010, 11:34 AM']I'm not actually buying the CD because I am poor as fuck! :B I'm just sayin that if I was a wota in Japan and was shelling out the couple extra bucks for a lottery ticket/DVD/poster/whatever, it'd be nice if I got a better cover than someone who bought the normal edition.[/quote]
Oh, I didn't knew there are additional things in the special version. I thought it was just the covers...
Oh, I didn't knew there are additional things in the special version. I thought it was just the covers...
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
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[quote name='Ap2000' post='80026' date='May 21 2010, 06:43 AM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='80025' date='May 21 2010, 11:34 AM']I'm not actually buying the CD because I am poor as fuck! :B I'm just sayin that if I was a wota in Japan and was shelling out the couple extra bucks for a lottery ticket/DVD/poster/whatever, it'd be nice if I got a better cover than someone who bought the normal edition.[/quote]
Oh, I didn't knew there are additional things in the special version. I thought it was just the covers...
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I'll just post it again then shall I?
Limited Edition singles come with a DVD. Contents of Limited Edition DVDs are as follows.
Limited Ver A – Dance Shot Ver.
Limited Ver B – Close-up Ver.
Limited Ver C – Seishun Ver.-type1-
and for good measure
SingleV comes with the following
Seishun Collection
Seishun Collection (Seishun Ver.-type2-)
Making Of
Oh, I didn't knew there are additional things in the special version. I thought it was just the covers...
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I'll just post it again then shall I?
Limited Edition singles come with a DVD. Contents of Limited Edition DVDs are as follows.
Limited Ver A – Dance Shot Ver.
Limited Ver B – Close-up Ver.
Limited Ver C – Seishun Ver.-type1-
and for good measure
SingleV comes with the following
Seishun Collection
Seishun Collection (Seishun Ver.-type2-)
Making Of
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Now THAT's even worse than what I thought. (they're incremental or something, e.g. Limited C has everything, B half of it, A just a little bit)
Thanks for clearing this up.
Thanks for clearing this up.
Travel back in time through the haze of memories that aren't your own
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
and melodies frozen in a particular place in history..
If you say run, I'll run with you
If you say hide, we'll hide
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[quote name='Ap2000' post='80031' date='May 21 2010, 06:13 AM']Now THAT's even worse than what I thought. (they're incremental or something, e.g. Limited C has everything, B half of it, A just a little bit)
Thanks for clearing this up.[/quote]
That's not exactly how it works.
The "everything" version (in other words, the normal PV) is only on the Single V DVD (which is just a DVD, not a CD).
The limited CDs have 'bonus' DVDs that are the full camera shots that they spliced together to make the final normal version. Version A has dancing for all 4:30 of the song. Version B has close-ups for all 4:30 of the song. Version C has another camera angle for all 4:30 (maybe? I'm guessing the sofa shot?).
It is still dumb though since DVDs can, of course, hold way more than 5 minutes of video. Remember when some of the Limited Editions used to come with little photobooks? I suppose it's cheaper to spend the 2 yen to press the 5-minute DVD of footage they already had lying around than to print a 8-16 page color booklet.
Thanks for clearing this up.[/quote]
That's not exactly how it works.
The "everything" version (in other words, the normal PV) is only on the Single V DVD (which is just a DVD, not a CD).
The limited CDs have 'bonus' DVDs that are the full camera shots that they spliced together to make the final normal version. Version A has dancing for all 4:30 of the song. Version B has close-ups for all 4:30 of the song. Version C has another camera angle for all 4:30 (maybe? I'm guessing the sofa shot?).
It is still dumb though since DVDs can, of course, hold way more than 5 minutes of video. Remember when some of the Limited Editions used to come with little photobooks? I suppose it's cheaper to spend the 2 yen to press the 5-minute DVD of footage they already had lying around than to print a 8-16 page color booklet.
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Re: Morning Musume - Seishun Collection
[quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='80007' date='May 20 2010, 11:48 PM'][quote name='Ap2000' post='80000' date='May 20 2010, 09:39 PM'][quote name='Special Needs Tricycle' post='79996' date='May 21 2010, 12:10 AM']I hate it when normal covers are the best covers.[/quote]
Why ?
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...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
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My thoughts exactly.
And when you see as much fail as the Limiteds have had with the last two singles (Onna ga Limited A and I think it was C [the one with them in front of the old Grecian theatre] and Ass n' Tittles Limited A), that's even less reason to own a Limited in my eyes.
"OH HEY I HAVE A DVD. BUT FIRE SINGED OFF ERI'S ARM AND REINA'S MIDRIFF." (I also noticed if you look close at it, Ai's necklace and hand is semi-transparent.)
Photobooks would be hot. I actually downloaded the Ai Araba minibook, and it's so awesome. <3 I want to try and track down more now.
You know what would be awesome?
Showing the girls playing football. In jerseys and high heels.
But since UFA can't afford more than one costume anymore, whatever.
Why ?
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...Because limited edition covers should be the best? If I'm going to shell out more money for whatever the limited edition CD comes with, I'd rather it have a better cover than the normal edition.
[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.
And when you see as much fail as the Limiteds have had with the last two singles (Onna ga Limited A and I think it was C [the one with them in front of the old Grecian theatre] and Ass n' Tittles Limited A), that's even less reason to own a Limited in my eyes.
"OH HEY I HAVE A DVD. BUT FIRE SINGED OFF ERI'S ARM AND REINA'S MIDRIFF." (I also noticed if you look close at it, Ai's necklace and hand is semi-transparent.)
Photobooks would be hot. I actually downloaded the Ai Araba minibook, and it's so awesome. <3 I want to try and track down more now.
You know what would be awesome?
Showing the girls playing football. In jerseys and high heels.
But since UFA can't afford more than one costume anymore, whatever.
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Full PV is Out (In sucky quality) xD
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