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I don't know, you're saying a teenage girl could save up cash and be fiscally responsible. It's possible, but I can't think of one fiscally responsible teenager out of everyone I've ever met. Maybe one, but even she still depends on what one would count as frivolous spending vs saving since she splurged on some things.
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Man, it really reeks of desperation. And Takamina appearing in a single after her graduation single, lol  :lmfao:
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The only thing that breaks my heart about this is that Takamina's graduation single (where she finally gets to be center), is the one single in 20+ singles (including the janken singles with random girls as center) that sells less than a million copies. 


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http://tokyogirlsupdate.com/kana-kobayashi-graduation-akb-20160176210.html


Kobayashi Kana is graduating. By the end of this year Umeda Ayaka will be the only original Team K member left unless she leaves too.
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Umeda announced her graduation today. I made this happen!!!!

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I liked imagining that a dip in sales would force AKB to start putting out fun, interesting songs again but of course I was wrong - let's just drag in a bunch of the old girls to make ourselves look super, super desperate LOL.  I've been following AKB since their debut and I'd be lying if I said I don't feel like their music went to garbage pretty much the minute they got huge.  So many of the new singles sound exactly like each other.
 
I wonder how much longer KojiHaru will be around.  When you follow her instagram you can really tell she's trying to build herself up as her own brand rather than as a member of AKB - like, if I didn't know who she was, a glance at her insta wouldn't necessarily make me think she was a member of a group at all.
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If it helps none of them are center. It's an HKT48 member who has a concurrency in team A.


So um. That's interesting?
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Have they really experienced a "dip" in sales? Wikipedia shows their singles still selling over 1 million, with some well over that. Are those numbers inaccurate?
 
I think most groups have a shelf life, and AKB is probably coming close to reaching theirs. I've seen a lot of fans voicing the opinion online that they have become boring and predictable musically. It's just a matter of a new group debuting to replace them in the hearts of the wota. At a certain point, new girls are not enough to sustain an old idol brand. That Morning Musume has been able to catch a second wind and sustain 150K-ish sales is kind of amazing, really.
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Their latest was their first in five years to not sell a million it's first week. Outside of their election singles they have experienced a decline although their sales are still massive. All of their subunits and soloists have declined as well.
 
Also they're in the same boat as MM where the massive majority of their sales come from handshakes, they just have a ton more girls and wota to take advantage of it. If you go look at old SoundScan charts, their regular store sales don't hit anywhere near a million.
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[quote="Anderei"]
Their latest was their first in five years to not sell a million it's first week. Outside of their election singles they have experienced a decline although their sales are still massive. All of their subunits and soloists have declined as well.
 
Also they're in the same boat as MM where the massive majority of their sales come from handshakes, they just have a ton more girls and wota to take advantage of it. If you go look at old SoundScan charts, their regular store sales don't hit anywhere near a million.
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Yep, all combined, their singles average around 100-125k in sales going off SoundScan.  Certainly nothing to sniff at, but a 1,000,000 disparity is kind of amazing LOL.  Their Oricon numbers are so big that they can take a pretty huge hit in sales before it looks like anything much.  No one will notice that you sold 25-50k less than usual if you're still over a million.
 
That said, I'm guessing the little dip in sales is them losing what little general public interest they still had going for them - it makes sense considering the girls they're bringing back are some of the only ones the public had any awareness of.  Despite AKB's sales, ask the average person if they know any song besides Heavy Rotation or MAYBE Koisuru Fortune Cookie, you're going to mostly come up empty.  This is why you see a lot of people on Japanese forums complaining that AKB girls are plastered all over CMs, magazines, etc despite no one even knowing who they are.  Companies are used to looking at the Oricon as a gauge of public interest ("Artist X is ruling the Oricon so they should definitely sponsor our brand!") but the new world of bulk-buying and handshake sales has made that incredibly inaccurate.  Back when Hikki put out her debut album and it sold millions, damn near every household in Japan had a copy of it.  Nowadays, Oricon numbers like that usually just mean there are a few guys sitting at home surrounded by boxes full of CDs.  I'm rambling but my point is - AKB look a lot more popular than they actually are.
 
They've got a long while to go before they really have anything to worry about but there's a strong feeling that it's time for them to mix things up a bit, that they can't continue riding on name alone when they're slowly heading toward H!P's direction, where their only consumer base is wota.  People are getting sick of them.
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The last akb48 song I really liked was Koisuru Fortune cookie and I think that was released 2013. Other than that, the stuff they put out is boring and tame and there are just too many girls to learn the names of.
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http://tokyogirlsupdate.com/misaki-iwasa-graduation-akb48-20160177689.html
 
Iwasa Misaki is graduating to focus on enka full time.
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http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/AKB48---Kimi-wa-Melody/e4f211f635a8f1e7b5b5ea6cac3f05af Full MV of Kimi wa Melody which features the graduated members. Video is pretty, but song is boring and unmemorable.
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Heavy Rotation with a beautiful settings (and not sexy or cute).

The video is indeed really pretty but those Heavy Rotation "flashbacks" are annoying me. Have they ever thought about why some OGs didn't want to be labeled as ex-AKB48 anymore ? Fanservice may be one the reasons, in my opinion (I'm especially speaking about the kiss).
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I really liked it! The song was simple and forgettable, but pleasant in my opinion. I usually find AKB's pleasant-pop type songs to be a weird kind of simple that just sounds lazy and underproduced, but this one just sounds like the right amount of production to me. Definitely not the most interesting thing they've put out, but at least it's done well.
 
Now... I still can't figure out the graduated member thing. I just keep wracking my brain and I can't come up with any logical reason they would all agree to come back! I understand a few of them, but all these girls? Unless there's a huge payday behind it, I just can't figure out why girls who have otherwise good careers post-AKB would plop themselves right back into it. Maybe it'll benefit them, I dunno...
 
Anyway, I was told that Miyawaki Sakura--my new AKB crush--would be the center of this single, so I leave disappointed that I didn't notice her in any of the video until towards the end. :( Maybe I'm blind?
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This year's election has been scheduled for June 18th in Niigata. The lovely people over at Stage48 (who are far more pessimistic than I expected) pointed out that every year the SSK venue gets smaller lol.
 
Location: HARD OFF ECO Stadium Niigata
Eligible members:
1. AKB, SKE, NMB, HKT, NGT members (as of 3/23)
2. Team Kaigai AKB members (Chikano, Nakagawa)
 
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The two dates before Takamina's graduation have apparently also not sold out despite being on sale for a long time now and the venues are of a similar size to the SSK one. I guess they're having a harder time pushing ticket sales and also want to promote NGT48.
 
Watanabe Miyuki has announced she won't be participating in the election this year.
 
They've also announced their senbatsu for their 45th single:
 
Team A: Yokoyama Yui, Shimazaki Haruka, Kojima Haruna, Iriyama Anna, Hiwatashi Yui, Oya Shizuka, Miyazaki Miho
Team K: Minegishi Minami, <b>Mukaichi Mion</b>, Muto Tomu
Team B: Kizaki Yuria, Kashiwagi Yuki, Watanabe Mayu, Kato Rena, Oshima Ryoka
Team 4: Okada Nana, Kojima Mako, Takahashi Juri, Kawamoto Saya
Team 8: Yamada Nanami
Team S: Matsui Jurina, Kitagawa Ryoha
Team E: Goto Rara
Team N: Yamamoto Sayaka, Suto Ririka
Team M: Shiroma Miru
Team H: Sashihara Rino, Kodama Haruka
Team KIV: Miyawaki Sakura
Team NIII: Kato Minami, Kitahara Rie, Takakura Moeka
 
Mukaichi Mion is the center. 
 
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Watanabe Miyuki announced her graduation from NMB48. She's also got a concurrent position in AKB's Team B at the moment.


She didn't apply for the election and told fans not to buy her handshake tickets because she likely wouldn't be there so it was already speculated this would happen.
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The 48 empire is active again. 2 new Chinese sister groups were announced. BEJ48 will be in Beijing, and GNZ48 will be in Guangzhou. TPE48 of Taiwan is also finally starting to happen. And there is also two more that were announced last month. BNK48 of Bangkok and MNL48 of Manilla. 
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Shimada Haruka, once the chubby girl next door, has officially been chosen as an ambassador for Carl's Junior Japan along with Abe Maria and it is the best thing AKB for me.
 
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She wasn't ever a member, but an old kenkyuusei from 07-09, Tomita Mayu, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/0 ... yo-police/' class="bbc_url" title="External link">was stabbed by a fan 20 times and is in critical condition.</a> It seems she's working as a soloist, and he stabbed her a couple of hours before an event because she returned a gift he had sent her, and when he confronted her at a station she wouldn't give him a clear answer as to why. It appears he's been stalking her for awhile now.
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I didn't know she was a Kenkyuusei. 48 girls have the worst luck... After that handshake incident, that SNH girl who got set on fire, and now this.
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I didn't know she was a Kenkyuusei. 48 girls have the worst luck... After that handshake incident, that SNH girl who got set on fire, and now this.
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It's actually a different girl than the former '48 member. They just have the same name and Kanji spelling. Some sites have reported it wrong. 
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I went and looked at her Stage48 profile and Mizura is right, the AKB48 girl is now 23, not 20.
 
Still. It's really sad. 
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Preliminary results


AKB48 45thシングル 選抜総選挙速報結果


100位 上野遥 - Ueno Haruka(2283票)HKT48・H

99位 宮前杏実 - Miyamae Ami(2305票)SKE48・S

98位 松岡はな - Matsuoka Hana(2356票)HKT48・TII

97位 吉田華恋 - Yoshida Akari(2393票)AKB・8

96位 小嶋菜月 - Kojima Natsuki(2394票)AKB・A

95位 後藤楽々 - Goto Rara(2420票)SKE48・E

94位 市川美織 - Ichikawa Miori(2483票)NMB48・BII

93位 田中優香 - Tanaka Yuuka(2494票)HKT48・KIV

92位 中井りか - Nakai Rika(2502票)NGT48・NIII

91位 荻野由佳 - Ogino Yuka(2515票)NGT48・NIII

90位 藤江れいな - Fujie Reina(2794票)NMB48・M

89位 斉藤真木子 - Saito Makiko(2813票)SKE48・E

88位 福岡聖菜 - Fukuoka Seina(2831票)AKB・B

87位 青木詩織 - Aoki Shiori(2946票)SKE48・KII

86位 渋谷凪咲 - Shibuya Nagisa(2970票)NMB48・BII/AKB・4

85位 木本花音 - Kimoto Kanon(3020票)SKE48・E

84位 大和田南那 - Owada Nana(3045票)AKB・A

83位 岸野里香 - Kishino Rika(3258票)NMB48・N

82位 加藤夕夏 - Kato Yuuka(3299票)NMB48・N

81位 秋吉優花 - Akiyoshi Yuka(3369票)HKT48・H


アップカミングガールズ:16名(65位~80位)

80位 熊崎晴香 - Kumazaki Haruka(3375票)SKE48・E

79位 竹内舞 - Takeuchi Mai(3426票)SKE48・S

78位 駒田京伽 - Komada Hiroka(3504票)HKT48・H

77位 後藤理沙子 - Goto Risako(3535票)SKE48・S

76位 宮崎美穂 - Miyazaki Miho(3607票)AKB・A

75位 下野由貴 - Shimono Yuki(3778票)HKT48・KIV

74位 篠崎彩奈 - Shinozaki Ayana(2826票)AKB・K

73位 入山杏奈 - Iriyama Anna(3872票)AKB・A

72位 大家志津香 - Oya Shizuka(3993票)AKB・A

71位 村瀬紗英 - Murase Sae(4046票)NMB48・M

70位 野口由芽 - Noguchi Yume(4203票)SKE48・S

69位 今田美奈 - Imada Mina(4284票)HKT48・KIV

68位 西野未姫 - Nishino Miki(4300票)AKB・4

67位 日高優月 - Hidaka Yuzuki(4441票)SKE48・KII

66位 田中菜津美 - Tanaka Natsumi(4552票)HKT48・H

65位 峯岸みなみ - Minegishi Minami(4560票)AKB・K


フューチャーガールズ:16名(49位~64位)

64位 荒井優希 - Arai Yuki(4666票)SKE48・KII

63位 植木南央 - Ueki Nao(4691票)HKT48・KIV

62位 木崎ゆりあ - Kizaki Yuria(4794票)AKB・B

61位 朝長美桜 - Tomonaga Mio(5070票)HKT48・KIV/AKB・4

60位 岩立沙穂 - Iwatate Saho(5248票)AKB・4

59位 加藤玲奈 - Kato Rena(5273票)AKB・B

58位 惣田紗莉渚 - Soda Sarina(5356票)SKE48・KII

57位 田中美久 - Tanaka Miku(5365票)HKT48・H

56位 村重杏奈 - Murashige Anna(5403票)HKT48・KIV

55位 北川綾巴 - Kitagawa Ryoha(5587票)SKE48・S/AKB・4

54位 大場美奈 - Oba Mina(5656票)SKE48・KII

53位 坂口渚沙 - Sakaguchi Nagisa(5667票)AKB・8/AKB・B

52位 矢吹奈子 - Yabuki Nako(5734票)HKT48・H/AKB・B

51位 森保まどか - Moriyasu Madoka(5900票)HKT48・KIV

50位 北原里英 - Kitahara Rie(5924票)NGT48・NIII

49位 田島芽瑠 - Tashima Meru(5930票)HKT48・H


ネクストガールズ:16名(33位~48位)

48位 若田部遥 - Wakatabe Haruka(5936票)HKT48・H

47位 中西智代梨 - Nakanishi Chiyori(5951票)AKB・A

46位 二村春香 - Futamura Haruka(6039票)SKE48・S

45位 薮下柊 - Yabushita Shu(6150票)NMB48・BII

44位 高柳明音 - Takayanagi Akane(6318票)SKE48・KII

43位 鎌田菜月 - Kamata Natsuki(6334票)SKE48・E

42位 松岡菜摘 - Matsuoka Natsumi(6364票)HKT48・H

41位 酒井萌衣 - Sakai Mei(6410票)SKE48・E

40位 白間美瑠 - Shiroma Miru(6929票)NMB48・M/AKB・A

39位 冨吉明日香 - Tomiyoshi Asuka(6953票)HKT48・KIV

38位 坂口理子 - Sakaguchi Riko(6971票)HKT48・H

37位 古畑奈和 - Furuhata Nao(7154票)SKE48・KII

36位 本村碧唯 - Motomura Aoi(7481票)HKT48・KIV

35位 谷口めぐ - Taniguchi Megu(7550票)AKB・A

34位 太田夢莉 - Oota Yuri(7635票)NMB48・N

33位 大森美優 - Omori Miyu(7715票)AKB・4


アンダーガールズ:16名(17位~32位)

32位 佐々木優佳里 - Sasaki Yukari(7873票)AKB・A

31位 武藤十夢 - Muto Tomu(8208票)AKB・K

30位 小嶋真子 - Kojima Mako(8300票)AKB・4

29位 向井地美音 - Mukaichi Mion(8341票)AKB・K

28位 岡田彩花 - Okada Ayaka(8372票)AKB・4

27位 江籠裕奈 - Ego Yuna(8410票)SKE48・KII

26位 横山由依 - Yokoyama Yui(8701票)AKB・8

25位 井上由莉耶 - Inoue Yuriya(8709票)HKT48・H

24位 矢倉楓子 - Yagura Fuuko(8848票)NMB48・M

23位 神志那結衣 - Kojina Yui(9070票)HKT48・H

22位 須藤凜々花 - Sutou Ririka(9136票)NMB48・N

21位 倉野尾成美 - Kuranoo Narumi(9349票)AKB・8

20位 茂木忍 - Mogi Shinobu(9826票)AKB・K

19位 谷真理佳 - Tani Marika(9851票)SKE48・E

18位 込山榛香 - Komiyama Haruka(10043票)AKB・4

17位 島崎遥香 - Shimazaki Haruka(10610票)AKB・A


45stシングル 選抜メンバー:16名(1位~16位)

16位 渕上舞 - Fuchigami Mai(11146票)HKT48・KIV

15位 川本紗矢 - Kawamoto Saya(11379票)AKB・4

14位 沖田彩華 - Okita Ayaka(11426票)NMB48・M

13位 大島涼花 - Oshima Ryoka(11888票)AKB・B

12位 宮脇咲良 - Miyawaki Sakura(12410票)HKT48・KIV/AKB・A

11位 にゃんにゃん仮面 - NyanNyanKamen(12630票)

10位 高橋朱里 - Takahashi Juri(12705票)AKB・4

09位 竹内彩姫 - Takeuchi Saki(12935票)SKE48・KII

08位 児玉遥 - Komada Haruka(13599票)HKT48・H/AKB・K

07位 岡田奈々 - Okada Nana(14889票)AKB・4

06位 柏木由紀 - Kashiwagi Yuki(20988票)AKB・B/NGT48・NIII

05位 須田亜香里 - Suda Akari(22536票)SKE48・E

04位 山本彩 - Yamamoto Sayaka(26680票)NMB48・N/AKB・K

03位 松井珠理奈 - Matsui Jurina(35469票)SKE48・S

02位 指原莉乃 - Sashihara Rino(41127票)HKT48・H

01位 渡辺麻友 - Watanabe Mayu(42034票)AKB・B


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The few girls that I recognize seem a lot lower than last year. Minegishi Minami and Iriyama Anna for example.
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Minegishi didn't make senbatsu last year either to be fair. Stage48 has her first day voting at 60 in 2015. Iriyama didn't participate which probably hurt her this year.
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Didn't Shimazaki Haruka rank in top 3 for past years ?
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^ For the last two, she apparently ranked #9 and #7. I honestly can't keep track of all the numbers and all the years, so I get mixed up easily.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Meikochi" data-cid="197822" data-time="1464806332">
Didn't Shimazaki Haruka rank in top 3 for past years ?</blockquote>


What I posted were only the first day results, not the overall.
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Re: Club48 :: Where we spam 48 ways to glory!

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[quote="Anderei"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Meikochi" data-cid="197822" data-time="1464806332">
Didn't Shimazaki Haruka rank in top 3 for past years ?
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What I posted were only the first day results, not the overall.[/quote]
 
I got it wasn't final results but I didn't know what preliminary results standed for (I thought results were unveiled only during the sousenkyou concert so I was confused haha).

Thank for clarifying it for me !


(And thanks Mizura ; I think Shimazaki Haruka being center for Bokutachi wa Tatakawanai made me thought she was really popular).

 
Campy <3 !
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