Best and Worst Singers in H!P's History?

[Meikochi]

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Worst:

sayugly and kusomi.
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Still totally legit.
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If you find interesting to know why some people like Koha's voice, you should read my post about her Furusato :) (page 3, #76).

[Ap2000]

[quote="Meikochi"]
 
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Worst:

sayugly and kusomi.
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Still totally legit.
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If you find interesting to know why some people like Koha's voice, you should read my post about her Furusato :) (page 3, #76).
 
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No, my hate for her is unconditional, indiscriminative and blind.

[JPope]

[quote="Meikochi"]
 
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Worst:

sayugly and kusomi.
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Still totally legit.
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If you find interesting to know why some people like Koha's voice, you should read my post about her Furusato :) (page 3, #76).
 
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I think her "Furusato" is a prime example of why so many despise her voice: pedestrian phrasing, rarely in tune, and that grating, nasal timbre. Even Sayumi, by the end of her run, had a more pleasing voice than Koharu.

[Ap2000]

[quote="JPope"]
I think her "Furusato" is a prime example of why so many despise her voice: pedestrian phrasing, rarely in tune, and that grating, nasal timbre. Even Sayumi, by the end of her run, had a more pleasing voice than Koharu.
 
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Yeah, listening to her is still as unbearable as it was 6 years ago.

[billybellsacks]

Worst ever :
Michisige Sayumi
 
The best ever :
Abe Natsumi and Kamei Eri
 
Fullstop.

[momoirosaya]

Of H!P's current newer members...(girls from the past 5 years)

Sakura, Karin, Meimi, and Kanon F. Have my favorite voices.


The worst would have to be Harunan, Eripon (but she's still my oshi), and Zukki (I just don't like her voice).

[Farrah]

As of 2015, with the current roster, I suppose my favorites would be Tomoko, Sakura, Airi, Chisato, Meimi, and Akari in pretty much that exact order.  It'll be interesting to see how Country Girls develop, because as of right now, none of them stand out as particularly good vocalists.
 
Although she's considered a good singer (and I mean, she is - she has steady pitch and decent control), there is probably no one in the current H!P line up whose voice I hate more than Fukuda Kanon's.  She's been in Hello!Project since she was a child and her voice is actually somehow more nasal and grating now than it was then.  She has a strong voice but the actual tone of it just drives me up the wall - high pitched, nasal, screechy.  I'm also pretty much personally offended every time Erina attempts to croak out a note.

[Anderei]

Which Akari? Although I'd be surprised no matter which one you're talking about.

[yuzuriha]

OK I think I have to finally weigh in on this.
 
Current (I swear it didn't turn into one per group on purpose):
Sakura, Risako, Airi, Tomoko, Meimi
 
Of all time?  Oh my god this is so tough.
 
Kaori, Ishiguro, Kei, Maki, Takahashi, Eri, Mikitty, LinLin, Masae, Ayaya, all of T&C Bomber, Danielle.
 
I'm probably forgetting someone...

[Farrah]

[quote="Anderei"]
Which Akari? Although I'd be surprised no matter which one you're talking about.
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The S/mileage/Angerme one.  Of those girls, she and Meimi have the least high pitched / squeaktastic voices.  I honestly can't stand cutesy voices, which is why I ignored S/mileage for a very long time.  But as their discography has become more mature, Kanon and Ayaka's voices grate on me even more because I feel their vocals don't really suit the songs anymore.

[arcobaleno]

For me, current members I consider pretty decent are Riho (who has vastly improved and has a very strong voice), Sakura, Airi, Chisato, Meimi, Fukuda (I dislike her voice but she's good), Tomoko and Karin. Miki from MM 12th gen seems to be good so far, but I'm not making any real judgements yet. Er... for all time. Ishiguro, all of MM 2nd gen, Takahashi, Niigaki, Reina when she first joined, Eri in her later years, LinLin, Masae, Ayaya, Danielle, and Atsuko.

[yuzuriha]

Oh yeah I knew I forgot someone. Ogawa Saki and Maeda Yuuka. Yuuka might have had a cutesy voice but she was still a good singer.  And Saki's VERY BEAUTY performance will always be one of my favorites.

[Farrah]

I'm so glad to see someone mention Inaba Atsuko.  People forget about her a lot - T&C Bomber kind of flopped despite having a pretty stellar discography.  They were just no match for their Avex competitors.  But Atsuko was an amazing singer and dancer.  She actually recorded the harmonies on ton of H!P songs up until the Elder Club graduation.  I've read she did some choreography as well.

[Banana]

I was just listening to a couple of Ayaya x Inaba covers from Uta Doki! Pop Classics: 
 
Romance no Kamisama
 
Banri no Kawa

[JPope]

Here's a great example of a pretty good lead singer being upstaged by the girl singing harmonies:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4n4lupN90I
 
It makes me sad that there are no performances like this coming from the Hello! Project anymore.

[Banana]

Maki could sound a lot better than she did there (especially later on), though. Not that she was as good as Ayaya, of course. 

[Monkey D Mousa]

I would say the best ever singer would be Tanakacchi, and the worst in my opinion Momoko.

[Madara]

[quote="Farrah"]
I'm so glad to see someone mention Inaba Atsuko.  People forget about her a lot - T&C Bomber kind of flopped despite having a pretty stellar discography.  They were just no match for their Avex competitors.  But Atsuko was an amazing singer and dancer.  She actually recorded the harmonies on ton of H!P songs up until the Elder Club graduation.  I've read she did some choreography as well.
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Ditto on Inaba. I recently watched her and her Taiyo Ciscomoon partners on the Goodbye and Hello Concert DVD from 2013(?). And they were freakin' awesome.
 
It's a shame H!P never knew what to do with Inaba.
 
[quote="Monkey D Mousa"]
I would say the best ever singer would be Tanakacchi, and the worst in my opinion Momoko.
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Who's Tanakacchi?

[momoirosaya]

^Tanaka Reina

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I would say the best ever singer would be Tanakacchi, and the worst in my opinion Momoko.</blockquote>
While Momoko's voice is quite annoying to many, including myself, she is quite a good singer. There is a difference between being a bad singer and having a voice that doesn't please everyone's ears.

[Monkey D Mousa]

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Monkey D Mousa" data-cid="183320" data-time="1421861243">
I would say the best ever singer would be Tanakacchi, and the worst in my opinion Momoko.
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While Momoko's voice is quite annoying to many, including myself, she is quite a good singer. There is a difference between being a bad singer and having a voice that doesn't please everyone's ears.
 
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Hmm, well she do have a annoying voice but it's not the reason I think she is "bad", I just don't like her as a singer, even tho people don't agree with me it's still my opinion.

[Shoujo Q]

[quote="Shoujo Q"]
People are missing, because I don't care either way enough about them to add them to the list and new girls aren't added because of obvious newbie reasons.

Also this is my unbiased opinion, mainly because some of my favorites are knee deep in the suck pile, but I still got nothin' but love for them. NOTHIN' BUT LOVE!

My Best Singers List

Yuko Nakazawa

Asuka Fukuda

Kei Yusada

Abe Natsumi

Takahashi Ai

Kago Ai

Kamei Eri

Fujimoto Miki

Okai Chisato

Suzuki Airi

Matsuura Aya

LinLin

Miyamoto Karin


My Singers who have bad days but can sing well enough that it doesn't suck List


Sugaya Risako
Tsugunaga Momoko
Natsuyaki Miyabi
Tanaka Reina
Niigaki Risa
Maeda Yuuka
Fukuda Kanon
Goto Maki

My Go Away Now Please Dear God why are YOU SINGING! List


Iida Kaori

Yaguchi Mari

Ishikawa Rika

Michishige Sayumi

Mano Erina

Wada Ayaka

JunJun

Mitsui Aika

Tsuji Nozomi

Yajima Maimi

Kusumi Koharu

Konno Asami
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My updated list. Now including pretty much everyone except the trainees. I think I have everyone anyway. xD

 
<div>The Good</div>
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<div>Active List</div>
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<div>Favorites in Idol Genre. (My all around Favorites.)</div>
<div>Suzuki Airi</div>
<div>Miyamoto Karin</div>
<div>Natsuyaki Miyabi</div>
<div>Fukuda Kanon</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Favorites That I think would work well outside the Idol genre. (My all around Favorites.)</div>
<div>Oda Sakura</div>
<div>Sugaya Risako</div>
<div>Tamura Meimi</div>
<div>Takagi Sayuki</div>
<div>Okai Chisato</div>
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<div>I like their singing, but they work well as team players. (Not as Soloists.)</div>
<div>Shimizu Saki</div>
<div>Tsugunaga Momoko</div>
<div>Fukumura Mizuki</div>
<div>Sayashi Riho</div>
<div>Suzuki Kanon</div>
<div>Kudo Haruka</div>
<div>Wada Ayaka</div>
<div>Katsuta Rina</div>
<div> </div>
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<div>Non-Active Favorites - General List</div>
<div>Yuko Nakazawa</div>
<div>Inaba Atsuko</div>
<div>Asuka Fukuda</div>
<div>Kei Yusada</div>
<div>Takahashi Ai</div>
<div>Kago Ai</div>
<div>Kamei Eri</div>
<div>Fujimoto Miki</div>
<div>Matsuura Aya</div>
<div>Saito Hitomi</div>
<div>Otani Masae</div>
<div>Murakami Megumi</div>
<div>LinLin</div>
<div>Maeda Yuuka</div>
<div>Ogawa Saki</div>
<div>Danielle</div>
<div>Chelsea</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Non-Active Singers Meh List - They are Okay, but not my favorite.</div>
<div>Abe Natsumi</div>
<div>Ishiguro Aya</div>
<div>Ichii Sayaka</div>
<div>Rinne</div>
<div>Asami</div>
<div>Miuna</div>
<div>Satoda Mai</div>
<div>Yoshizawa Hitomi</div>
<div>Shibata Ayumi</div>
<div>Goto Maki</div>
<div>Ogawa Makoto</div>
<div>JunJun</div>
<div>Niigaki Risa</div>
<div>Umeda Erika</div>
<div>Mika </div>
<div>Ayaka</div>
<div>Miyoshi Erika</div>
<div> </div>
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<div> </div>
<div>The Bad</div>
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<div>Active Members: They need work, but a lot of work. (It might be a lost cause in some cases.)</div>
<div>Sato Masaki</div>
<div>Tanaka Reina < - While not in H!P, she's still very much an active singer in an active group.</div>
<div>Uemura Akari</div>
<div>Ishida Ayumi</div>
<div>Miyazaki Yuka</div>
<div>Takeuchi Akari</div>
<div>Iikubo Haruna</div>
<div>Ikuta Erina</div>
<div>Hagiwara Mai</div>
<div>Yajima Maimi</div>
<div>Kumai Yurina</div>
<div>Tokunaga Chinami</div>
<div>Sudo Maasa</div>
<div>Mitsui Aika <- She's still on Hiatus.</div>
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<div> </div>
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<div>Non-Active Members: I never cared for their singing.</div>
<div>Iida Kaori</div>
<div>Yaguchi Mari</div>
<div>Tsuji Nozomi</div>
<div>Konno Asami</div>
<div>Michishige Sayumi</div>
<div>Kusumi Koharu</div>
<div>Murata Megumi</div>
<div>Mano Erina</div>
<div>Ishikawa Rika</div>
<div>Arihara Kanna</div>
<div>Ishimura Maiha</div>
<div>Okada Yui</div>
<div>Lehua</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And the Unknowns</div>
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<div>Dark Horse List (They either haven't sang enough for me to place them or I haven't heard them perform yet.)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ogata Haruna</div>
<div>Nonaka Miki</div>
<div>Makino Maria</div>
<div>Haga Akane</div>
<div>Murota Mizuki <- She did well on her solo line in her first single, but that's not enough to place her elsewhere.</div>
<div>Aikawa Maho</div>
<div>Sasaki Rikako</div>
<div>Yamaki Risa</div>
<div>Inaba Manaka</div>
<div>Morito Chisaki</div>
<div>Shimamura Uta</div>
<div>Ozeki Mai</div>
<div>Hamaura Ayano</div>
<div>Taguchi Natsumi</div>
<div>Ogawa Rena</div>
<div>Nomura Minami</div>
<div>Wada Sakurako</div>
<div>Fujii Rio</div>
<div>Hirose Ayaka</div>
<div>Inoue Rei</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Non-Active Couldn't Place Because of reasons?</div>
<div>Shinoda Miho</div>
<div>RuRu </div>
<div>Kominato Miwa</div>
<div>April</div>
<div>Yanagihara Hiromi (R.I.P)</div>
</div>
</div>

[Anderei]

Is this based on ability, or just how you like their voices? If it's the former, I don't think Reina deserves to be listed with some of the people in the category you put her in.

[Shoujo Q]

I don't like Reina's voice and I never will like it till she stops singing the way she's been singing. I hate it and it grates on my every nerve. 
 
Edit: I had at one point written that the active list was best to worst on a training scale. Like, I know Masaki, if she were given a proper song could easily be moved from the list. I just haven't heard her sing a song without sounding like she's sucking a balloon full of helium for example. So I just went with, they need work. Lots of work for me to consider them good or not. Bottom of the list are the H!P Kids that I doubt would improve much in my eyes after 10+ years. Risako being a shining example to me of someone who actually grew into her voice. Honestly 10 years ago if you had told me this Risako was the same person as the Risako that debuted in Berryz Koubou, I'd laugh at you. So I always hold out hope on the younger girls and less experienced girls that they CAN get better. A more recent example would be Ayaka and Kana from ANGERME. They found a range which works for them and if they stick with it, they tend to sound amazing. Not like, top of the pile amazing, but they can work it. 

[momoirosaya]

She over pronounces things and it's annoying. Her voice is good, but technique...

[Anderei]

Her technique is nowhere near as bad as people like Eripon.

[momoirosaya]

Eripon doesn't even have a technique, she's just tone deaf.

[JPope]

Reina's voice hasn't improve much from the time she joined until the present day. I though she was great for a raw 13 year old girl, but I I find her to be rather overrated by MM fans in general. She has a strong voice with stamina, and usually stays in tune, but it doesn't have much (any, really) character and I don't find it to be a particularly pleasant voice to listen to. 
 
On the topic of girls who grew into really good singers, or whose voices became a lot better over time, I think Risa Niigaki is the poster child for both. She had an unusually husky voice for her age and size when she joined, and she struggled to control it. She was really hard to listen to at times. By the time she graduated, though, her voice was beautiful, and she learned how to use it very well. I think Risa is a far better singer than Reina, to be honest, and she started with far less in terms of natural-born talent.

[arcobaleno]

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Reina's voice hasn't improve much from the time she joined until the present day. I though she was great for a raw 13 year old girl, but I I find her to be rather overrated by MM fans in general. She has a strong voice with stamina, and usually stays in tune, but it doesn't have much (any, really) character and I don't find it to be a particularly pleasant voice to listen to. 
 
On the topic of girls who grew into really good singers, or whose voices became a lot better over time, I think Risa Niigaki is the poster child for both. She had an unusually husky voice for her age and size when she joined, and she struggled to control it. She was really hard to listen to at times. By the time she graduated, though, her voice was beautiful, and she learned how to use it very well. I think Risa is a far better singer than Reina, to be honest, and she started with far less in terms of natural-born talent.
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I completely agree. Risa used to be paired with Sayu a lot for a reason, but once she gained control, her voice became one of the most beautiful, to my ears. Her vocals in Nanchatte Ren'ai are some of my favorite ever, and she consistently ranks high in my list of voices I found pleasant.
 
On the topic of Reina, I think she was hugely talented when she joined (her Memory Seishun no Hikari is still epic), but somewhere along the line, it never turned into anything and fizzled out. Like you said, she has a strong voice, but doesn't have anything to it, and the way she sings now isn't really pleasant at all to listen to, since it sounds so... chipmunky.
 
But that's all my opinion. I can see why she's so high on so many people's lists, but for me, personally, I find Gaki to be a much better singer. I know she had her foghorn moments, but she improved so so much.

[Anderei]

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Reina's voice hasn't improve much from the time she joined until the present day. I though she was great for a raw 13 year old girl, but I I find her to be rather overrated by MM fans in general. She has a strong voice with stamina, and usually stays in tune, but it doesn't have much (any, really) character and I don't find it to be a particularly pleasant voice to listen to.


On the topic of girls who grew into really good singers, or whose voices became a lot better over time, I think Risa Niigaki is the poster child for both. She had an unusually husky voice for her age and size when she joined, and she struggled to control it. She was really hard to listen to at times. By the time she graduated, though, her voice was beautiful, and she learned how to use it very well. I think Risa is a far better singer than Reina, to be honest, and she started with far less in terms of natural-born talent.</blockquote>


I'm not saying Reina is the best singer ever, but she doesn't deserve to be lumped in the same category as people like Eripon, Maasa, ect. Everyone else in that category on Q's list are just legitimately terrible.


I blame her lack of progress on whoever was in charge of her vocal training.