[2014.02.19] Berryz Kobo - Otona na no yo! / 1 Oku 3 Senman sou Diet Oukoku (single)

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I can't feel anything but the deepest sympathy for Berryz. I can't believe how badly UFP neglects them with those outfits and now these covers.
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Miya's outfit is hot in that perfectly trashy 80's way.
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[quote="Al Kusanagi"]
Miya's outfit is hot in that perfectly trashy 80's way.
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Yeah, I love that outfit, but as has already been stated, the hair kills it for me.
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[quote="arcobaleno"]
I can't feel anything but the deepest sympathy for Berryz. I can't believe how badly UFP neglects them with those outfits and now these covers.
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Golden Chinatown and Asian Celebration's covers were way worse, if you ask me.
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I agree, but Berryz in general seems to be getting the lowest of the low lately.
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I can't feel anything but the deepest sympathy for Berryz. I can't believe how badly UFP neglects them with those outfits and now these covers.
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Golden Chinatown and Asian Celebration's covers were way worse, if you ask me.
 
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Asian Celebration is just..... Awful. Just completely awful. I'm sure Berryz will catch a break, soon. I can only hope. Motto Zutto was decent, but C-ute's Kanashiki Amefuri was considerably better with a kind of similar message/set up.
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You know, these covers aren't bad. It's the outfits that make them bad. And by outfits, I mean the trashy Otona outfits. The other ones are fine and pure idol costume wear. 
 
If I could give a visual theme to each single, it would be as follows. Otona na no yo is Loving You Too Much and 1 Oku 3 Senman sou Diet Oukoku is Heroine ni Narou ka!
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Regular A actually looks pretty good.
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Limited & Regular B are the best but they're just acceptable.. The others aren't good, even Regular A because of Miyabi's hairstyle right in the middle (and seriously, Limited C.. can't do less cheap) but, as Shoujo said, it's mostly because of Otona! outfits...
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Otona na no yo! MV Preview
 
Pretty good, as far as H!P MVs go. Have they filmed an MV on this set before, though? It looks really familiar.
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It looks like the set from Do it Now! with some bar lights added. Also, sure it looks okay, but the backdrop totally doesn't match the 80's theme? hahaha
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I don't think it was supposed to be intentionally 80s themed. Miyabi and Risako look 80s, I'm not sure what they were going for with Captain, but Maasa, Momoko, Yurina and Chinami are all more or less pretty modernly dressed.
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[quote="Anderei"]
I don't think it was supposed to be intentionally 80s themed. Miyabi and Risako look 80s, I'm not sure what they were going for with Captain, but Maasa, Momoko, Yurina and Chinami are all more or less pretty modernly dressed.
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It's just a hot mess.
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The insane majority of H!O thinks the covers are great  :whatthe: 
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I think Chinami looks pretty 80s with her print skirt and plain top, and Maasa's vest looks a bit 80's-ish, but otherwise you're right, it IS quite a hot mess! I just don't think there's a running theme throughout any of it.... Unless it needs to be explained or something.
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[quote="TicTacAnyone"]
I think Chinami looks pretty 80s with her print skirt and plain top, and Maasa's vest looks a bit 80's-ish, but otherwise you're right, it IS quite a hot mess! I just don't think there's a running theme throughout any of it.... Unless it needs to be explained or something.
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Print skirts and solid colored tops are back in fashion. So are vests (even the color of Maasa's vest is a pretty hot color right now). And quilted textures like Captain's shorts and Yurina's skirt too. It's like, they're on the right track, but they always just miss the mark because of other things.
 
Anyway, Chinami, Yurina, and Miyabi were on Tokyo MX Nippon Dandy.
 
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Not sure if this is legit or someone doing some lolz, but it's funny. Cause it's true.
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You're missing the other two shots!
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If they were all dressed like Risako, all dressed like Miyabi or all dressed like Saki, I'd really have no problem with the outfits. On their own, the only outfits that are styled horribly are Maasa's and Chinami's (Maasa's is illfitting and unflattering to her silhouette, Chinami's shoes are a TERRIBLE shape/cut for her skirt and the waistline is a little off). Momoko's is cute, Yurina's ages her a bit but isn't inherently awful or jarring in any way. It's the lack of cohesion - the outfits look HORRIBLE next to each other. 
 
Maasa's is just... ugh. When will they realize that fitted clothing with a defined waistline is actually FLATTERING on bigger girls? Baggy clothes do nothing but add inches.
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[quote="Anderei"]
You're missing the other two shots!
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I think these both look beautiful, too bad the full outfits look crappy together.  I love those diamond outline earring, I so want a pair.  And captain would totally fit in J=J.
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Miya's hair looks way better there except UGH AT THE VELOUR BOW KILL IT WITH FIRE.
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After seeing the PV... Just... Wow...
 
The song, the outfits, the dance, the PV. This may be the biggest train wreck in HP history.
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I don't know. As far as videos go, I really can't think of anything worser than Halation Summer.
 
For me, this is a pretty close second.
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After seeing what the Hello!Station had shown of the MV, I know what makes this whole single so bad for me.
 
Any particular piece of this puzzle is not horrible. Together, they are not horrible
 
But they are not likable. At all. Of course there will be some people who will say "This is the best Berryz song in a long time!" "Their hair is so gorgeous~" "The set looks cool!", I think most would look at any one aspect of the picture and say that they don't necessarily like any one of the things. I think the thing you could like most about this single is the song itself, if that. 
 
Mass indifference of something can be worse than general hatred, I think. Because even if some hate it, there are bound to be others that love it. But when no one likes anything, ugh.
 
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I like the video. I can definitely see touches from the director of their early videos.
But um the lines about "I can date who I want" . . . Um, no you can't. Management says you can't date at all. I found them ironic.
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[quote="Star"]
I like the video. I can definitely see touches from the director of their early videos.
But um the lines about "I can date who I want" . . . Um, no you can't. Management says you can't date at all. I found them ironic.
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I'd still take this single over another Asian Celebration or Shining Power.
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[quote="Farrah"]
I'd still take this single over another Asian Celebration or Shining Power.
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I second that.
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