[2014.10.29] 14 Shou ~The message~

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[2014.10.29] 14 Shou ~The message~

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1.Egao no Kimi wa Taiyo sa

2.Kimi no Kawari wa Iyashinai

3.What is LOVE?

4.Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe

5.Password is 0

6.TIKI BUN (Album ver.)

7.Watashi wa watashi nanda / All (new song)

8.Waraenai hanashi / All (new song)

9.Ashita wo tsukuru no wa kimi / All (new song)

10.Koibito ni wa zettai ni shira retakunai Shinjitsu / Sayumi, Mizuki, Haruna (new song)

11.Otona ni nareba otona ni ni nareru!? / Ikuta, Kanon, Ayumi, Masaki, Kudo (new song)

12.Kirari to hikaru hoshi / Riho, Sakura (new song)



Because all I needed in my life was another duet for Riho to be outshined on with mismatched voices.


I'd be way down for track 11 if Masaki wasn't on it. I'm expecting more robostuff from 10.


I also don't think every track from Kimi no Kawari needed to be included.

Oh, and they're also including tickets for handshakes because I guess they want people to actually buy it for once.
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Oh my god. This album. If only for 12, I am now looking forward to it.
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I'm excited for all the songs, they have really nice names. The groups are kinda bland, but they work well together.
 
Kirari to Hikaru Hoshi... that's a really gorgeous name and meaning. I hope the song'll match it.
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I wonder if you play Watashi wa Watashi Nanda with Tomodachi wa Tomodachi Nanda it makes a SUPER COOL NEW SONG?!?
 
Jk, that's already been used Q_Q
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Six new songs is bold (and exciting), but please tell me that that track listing doesn't represent the actual track order. Why would they run all of those singles together like that? It's not a Greatest Hits album.
 
Speaking of which, can we expect Best 3 in time for Christmas?
 
Speaking of which, I can't believe they haven't released a third "Best" compilation for so long. Greatest Hits packages are easy money, even if they don't sell that well. The songs are already recorded and the photos are already taken. It's really little more than choosing the songs and designing the artwork. 20K sales is almost guaranteed.
 
Also, I'm guessing that if they do release a Best 3 any time in the near future, it will almost certainly contain material from the EDM Era only, meaning the Platinum Era will have been completely passed over in the "Best" collections. As ambivalent as I am about the Platinum Era (I even dislike the name) I still think some of those songs deserve to be recognized on a Best collection.
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I knew that Sayu Haruna and Mizuki were going to have a trio song.
 
I don't want another Sakura Riho song though :/ Their voices don't mesh well. Hopefully it's a ballad.
The lumped girls song sound fun though!
 
Interesting pairs I would've liked to see... Eri Maa and Sayu, Sakura and Duu, Riho Mizuki Haruna Ayumi and Kanon.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="179521" data-time="1410846511">
Six new songs is bold (and exciting), but please tell me that that track listing doesn't represent the actual track order. Why would they run all of those singles together like that? It's not a Greatest Hits album.


Speaking of which, can we expect Best 3 in time for Christmas?


Speaking of which, I can't believe they haven't released a third "Best" compilation for so long. Greatest Hits packages are easy money, even if they don't sell that well. The songs are already recorded and the photos are already taken. It's really little more than choosing the songs and designing the artwork. 20K sales is almost guaranteed.


Also, I'm guessing that if they do release a Best 3 any time in the near future, it will almost certainly contain material from the EDM Era only, meaning the Platinum Era will have been completely passed over in the "Best" collections. As ambivalent as I am about the Platinum Era (I even dislike the name) I still think some of those songs deserve to be recognized on a Best collection.</blockquote>


Since they released a Best last year and a b-side compilation this year I wouldn't expect anything for awhile.


The last Best took 7 weeks to hit 21k, so anything over 20k for this album would be amazing although normally I'd expect a lot more from a group with their single sales.
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The Best! ~Updated Morning Musume~ was not a simple Greatest Hits compilation. They had to completely rearrange and rerecord seven older songs, remix six newer songs with new vocals, and write and record one brand new song. Only one song on that album appears unchanged from its single release.


The purpose of Best Updated was to establish new versions of classic songs -- five of which have already appeared on Best compilations -- to fit the group's current sound. It cost far more to produce than a proper Greatest Hits album. The fact that it includes a full seven tracks from the EDM Era is the biggest reason a Best 3 wouldn't be released any time soon, more so than the fact that it is nominally a Best Of collection.
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Finally! A new album! I gave up on thinking anyone in H!P would release a non-compilation album this year ages ago lol I wish I could understand the tracklist so I can be as excited as everyone else lol
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CDJapan just added it.
 
Regular: 3,000 ¥
Limited A: 5,000 ¥
Limited B: 4,000 ¥ 
 
Well this is different.
 
Edit: It appears the only difference between A and B is that A comes with a booklet.
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^Limited A also comes with a digipack.
 
[quote="JPope"]
Six new songs is bold (and exciting), but please tell me that that track listing doesn't represent the actual track order.
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It doesn't represent the actual order.  There's only one source for the track listing and it says that the songs and order are subject to change.
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I think it's be a good track order. That way you can skip the entire first half all at once and not as they come on in between the other stuff.
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[quote="NekoKai"]
^Limited A also comes with a digipack. 
[/quote]
 
Oh, what is a digipack?  :hahaha:
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Tada~  Basically it's the folded cardboard case instead of a plastic one.  Though apparently I misspelled it, it's actually "Digipak".  I didn't know it was a brand. :ph34r:
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Damn, I made my CDJapan order a couple of weeks ago, and that covers stuff I wanted until November. I'm too cheap to place another order just for this because of shipping, but by the time I'm ready to order the limiteds will probably be gone. But I definitely want this, 6 songs is finally something substantial to warrant an album, vs a collection of recent singles plus one new song to lure the die hards to buy it.

Also I never understood why digipaks are considered exclusive or limited, they feel so cheap and flimsy compared to good ol' jewel case. And it ticks me off how they don't close properly. When I handle one I feel it could very well be a free CD you get with a magazine, rather than a limited item at a premium price.
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If the digipack comes in one of those slipcases, then I can get behind something like that. I agree, without a slipcase, it's rubbish. At over 5000 yen, it better damn well come with a slipcase. 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="aine" data-cid="179552" data-time="1410901939">Damn, I made my CDJapan order a couple of weeks ago, and that covers stuff I wanted until November. I'm too cheap to place another order just for this because of shipping, but by the time I'm ready to order the limiteds will probably be gone. But I definitely want this, 6 songs is finally something substantial to warrant an album, vs a collection of recent singles plus one new song to lure the die hards to buy it.</blockquote>
I used to combine orders at CD Japan all the time. Do they not let you do that anymore?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Zoe" data-cid="179554" data-time="1410902395"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="aine" data-cid="179552" data-time="1410901939">Damn, I made my CDJapan order a couple of weeks ago, and that covers stuff I wanted until November. I'm too cheap to place another order just for this because of shipping, but by the time I'm ready to order the limiteds will probably be gone. But I definitely want this, 6 songs is finally something substantial to warrant an album, vs a collection of recent singles plus one new song to lure the die hards to buy it.</blockquote>
I used to combine orders at CD Japan all the time. Do they not let you do that anymore?</blockquote>
Ah, you can do that still, but my orders are put together in a way they fit exactly within the shipping weight bracket. If I added one item to the order then I'd feel obliged to fill it up to the brim again. :wut:

Never mind that CDJ made it so much harder to find out what the weight brackets are for each shipping method on their stupid redesigned site. :geof: And never mind that their estimate weights for each type of item are pretty much double of what they are in real. :geof: :geof: :geof:
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[quote="Anderei"]
I think it's be a good track order. That way you can skip the entire first half all at once and not as they come on in between the other stuff.
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Why would I want to do that? I like almost all of those songs.
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[quote="NekoKai"]
^Limited A also comes with a digipack.
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JPope" data-cid="179521" data-time="1410846511">
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Six new songs is bold (and exciting), but please tell me that that track listing doesn't represent the actual track order.
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It doesn't represent the actual order.  There's only one source for the track listing and it says that the songs and order are subject to change.
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Cool.
 
[quote="Anderei"]
I think it's be a good track order. That way you can skip the entire first half all at once and not as they come on in between the other stuff.
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Why would I want to do that? I like most of those songs.
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[quote="NekoKai"]
Tada~  Basically it's the folded cardboard case instead of a plastic one.  Though apparently I misspelled it, it's actually "Digipak".  I didn't know it was a brand. :ph34r:
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Oh, I see! Thank you. 
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[quote="Thea"]
CDJapan just added it.
 
Regular: 3,000 ¥
Limited A: 5,000 ¥
Limited B: 4,000 ¥ 
 
Well this is different.
 
Edit: It appears the only difference between A and B is that A comes with a booklet.
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Around £70 in total. Pretty pricey but not as bad as I thought they'd be. I usually hold off on placing an order until there are only 10 first press copies left.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ShiroiChanUK" data-cid="179561" data-time="1410937869"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Thea" data-cid="179543" data-time="1410893732">

CDJapan just added it.

<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7073">Regular</a>: 3,000 ¥
<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7069">Limited A</a>: 5,000 ¥
<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7071">Limited B</a>: 4,000 ¥


Well this is different.


Edit: It appears the only difference between A and B is that A comes with a booklet.</blockquote>
Around £70 in total. Pretty pricey but not as bad as I thought they'd be. I usually hold off on placing an order until there are only 10 first press copies left.</blockquote>


£70? Are you buying all three?
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[quote="Thea"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NekoKai" data-cid="179551" data-time="1410901138">
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Tada~  Basically it's the folded cardboard case instead of a plastic one.  Though apparently I misspelled it, it's actually "Digipak".  I didn't know it was a brand. :ph34r:
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Oh, I see! Thank you. 
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Thanks for asking Thea, I didn't know as well, and thanks NekoKai for answering :3 !
I'm thinking of buying LE A, just hope the booklet will be worth.
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[quote="Anderei"]
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ShiroiChanUK" data-cid="179561" data-time="1410937869">
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Thea" data-cid="179543" data-time="1410893732">

CDJapan just added it.

<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7073">Regular</a>: 3,000 ¥
<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7069">Limited A</a>: 5,000 ¥
<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/EPCE-7071">Limited B</a>: 4,000 ¥


Well this is different.


Edit: It appears the only difference between A and B is that A comes with a booklet.
</blockquote>
Around £70 in total. Pretty pricey but not as bad as I thought they'd be. I usually hold off on placing an order until there are only 10 first press copies left.</blockquote>


£70? Are you buying all three?[/quote]
Only if I can afford it :) I collect MoMusu merch so it'd be nice if I could pre-order all 3 at once but if my budget doesn't stretch to it then I'll pre-order LE A and buy the other 2 another time :) I couldn't afford to pre-order all versions of their new single so I bought RE A & B :)
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I'm excited to finally have a proper album with Sakura and Sayu before she graduates but this looks like it will be an itunes only buy for me.
Kaori • Risako 
 Sakura • Kananan •  Sayuki 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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These are all fan recordings from the concert
 
Waraenai Hanashi (all)
-cool dance song
-kind of reminds me of pre-golden era MM
-lots of Tsunku voice
 
Otona ni Nareba Otona ni Nareru!? (Erina, Kanon, Ayumi, Masaki, Haruka)
-rock style with lots of electric guitar
-fast tempo
 
Koibito ni wa Zettai Shiraretakunai Shinjutsu (Sayumi, Mizuki, Haruka)
-very electronic, bubbly
-cute song
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I wish this was the cd they are going to sell in NYC!
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Kirari to Hikaru Hoshi
 
Not my type of song, really =/
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I actually quite love this! I can't wait to hear it in studio quality.
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