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At least Karin sees Mifu's potential and I see it too. She really wasn't bad at all for a newbie. She also caught my eye because of her unique look.

I haven't had time to watch anything except these few clips and with my computer sound system down it'll probably be awhile if at all that I see the full show.

Yulia totally got the vote based on improvement and seniority but not really based on talent. While she has improved, she's just borderline standard H!P. You can throw her in Morning and she'll be fine, but she'll never be anywhere near center unless she can really prove herself. She'd probably do better in ANGERME but ANGERME doesn't need anyone right now. They need a major cool-down period. And Juice=Juice? I don't want it to happen if I'm honest.

Karin is definitely ready for a group and unlike Yulia, whatever group she goes into, she'll be fine.

Also to note, Sakura is probably going to leave at the end of the year if she doesn't make into either Morning or Juice this next round. At 17 she's at the high end of the age bracket for their audition age group. Another girl on the bubble is Hashida Honoka.
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Wah, I didn't realize Honoka was that old already. But yeah, I think it would be a shame for Sakura. They debuted girls with less talent, and Sakura has great energy and good expressions. I haven't seen/listened to any of the performances except for the ones that I linked, so I don't know how well or badly she did at the test, but for her looks and idol-ness alone I'd love to see her debut.

But then again, I don't know where. Certainly not in Juice, and I wouldn't even see her in MM. If anything she would've made a great addition to OCHA NORMA, but well.
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DonJuan wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:39 am It got deleted before I could watch it, but not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if UF played favourites lol.

/edit: ...or the public lol.
My first instinct was to gank that clip to my hard drive -- just in case -- and now I'm annoyed that I didn't.
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Shoujo Q wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 11:58 am Yulia totally got the vote based on improvement and seniority but not really based on talent. While she has improved, she's just borderline standard H!P. You can throw her in Morning and she'll be fine, but she'll never be anywhere near center unless she can really prove herself. She'd probably do better in ANGERME but ANGERME doesn't need anyone right now. They need a major cool-down period. And Juice=Juice? I don't want it to happen if I'm honest.

Karin is definitely ready for a group and unlike Yulia, whatever group she goes into, she'll be fine.
Yup, yup yup. All of that.

Yulia's popularity in Japan is perplexing to me, because as you said, she's barely average. Does she have a unique personality that fans are drawn to, or is it something else? I think she'd be fine in MM, and right now is a pretty good time for a 14 y/o middling-but-improving talent to join that group. They're probably gonna have a lot of turnover in the next three to four years, which would put Yulia right around the beginning of her prime, and if she continues to improve at the rate she did from 13 to 14, she would be in a great position. It has to be MM, though, right?

Right?


fuck, it's gonna be Juice=Juice, isn't it?
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It's gonna be the Juice/Tsubaki audition part 2. So yeah, it's gonna be Juice. :tongue:

In general, Yulia went the perfect idol way. She was the youngest in her audition (and there is quite a big difference between a 9yo and a 12yo) and was the funny and cute underdog that everybody adopted right away. Since she was so young she had enough time to improve in the KSS without fearing she will hit the age mark soon.

And after some time people just get attached to the KSS girls. The last few years there's been the emotion that the longer a girl stays within the KSS the more likely it has to be she has to debut somewhere. Everybody who stayed longer than Yulia and joined after 2010 did debut after all - except for Inoue Hikaru, and people are still pissy about that.

Something something cinderella story.
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Clips from the Girls' Choice performances were shown on today's Hello Station. Also the award announcements.



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At her own request, Karin Maeshima has ended her training activities as a KSS member and won't be a part of the upcoming performance - http://www.helloproject.com/news/14571/
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That was fast, and she's only 12. Some people said the results for the running audition are in, but at this age I feel like she either has another offer or just decided H!P wasn't for her.
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New ONE PLUS ONE: Mifu Kawashima x Reina Tanaka "Ookii Hitomi"

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Apparently Mizuki has mentioned at some point that she can see Mifu in MM, and I wouldn't be surprised if she actually won the running audition.
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Mifu and Yulia to MM is my ideal outcome, and if they find a Layla/Miyo/Wakana type to go with them, that's a bonus. Then again, if they do find a Layla/Miyo/Wakana type in the open audition, they'll probably go to J=J.
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I agree. Morning already has two potential front row-ers with Rio and Mei, they're not so much in need for someone who is ready for the get-go. They'll probably need another 2nd to 3rd row, someone who can grow in the background since the front line will thin out in the next few years due to graduations.

Juice, however... they can't just push everything onto Ruru, Rei and Riai.
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Here's a tweet thread with full versions of all the Girls Choice performances from the KSS Test.



Karin Maeshima quitting is a legit loss for the company, because she's pretty good.
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===Hello! Project Kenshuusei Recital June 2022 ~COLOR ~Shikisai~~ Setlist===

1. Gekikara LOVE / KSS
2. Medatte Do Dance / KSS, OCHA NORMA
MC Intro
3. Rainbow / KSS
4. "Koishitai Shinto" / KSS
5. Kindan Shoujo / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Ishiyama
6. Nineteen no Shinkirou / Murakoshi, Uemura, Yoshida, Kawashima, Goto
7. Mistake / OCHA NORMA
8. Koi no Crouching Start / OCHA NORMA
MC
9. KEEP ON Joshou Shikou!! / Ishiyama
10. Jealousy Jealousy / Murakoshi
11. Seishun Collection / Kawashima
12. Mugen Climax / Onoda
13. Teenage Solution / Matsubara
14. Date Zenya Kyousoukyoku / OCHA NORMA
MC
15. Akai Freesia / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Kawashima
16. Namida no Iro / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Ishiyama, Yoshida
17. Kiiroi Osora de BOOM BOOM BOOM / Onoda, Murakoshi, Hashida, Ishiyama, Yoshida
18. Watashi no Jidai! / Onoda, Uemura, Murakoshi, Kawashima
19. Watashi wo Tsukuru no wa Watashi / KSS
MC
20. Irotoridori Nobi yo!! / KSS, OCHA NORMA
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And THIS is why I believe we're getting a lot of kenshuusei soon.

Current state of the Kenshuusei (I updated the first post accordingly.)

Matsubara Yuriya (松原ユリヤ) 28th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’22)
Onoda Karin (小野田華凛) 29th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’22)
Hashida Honoka (橋田歩果) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’22)
Murakoshi Ayana (村越彩菜) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’22)
Uemura Hasumi (植村葉純) 30th Gen (Part of Hello Pro Kenshuusei Unit’22)
Yoshida Hinoha (吉田姫杷) 32nd Gen
Kawashima Mifu (川嶋美楓) 32nd Gen
Gotou Hana (後藤花) 33rd Gen
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It was announced on Hello Dream that the KSS Unit '22 will be getting a song to themselves, "Daisuki Dakedo Tsukiaenai" (大好きだけど付き合えない) and will be perfoming it at the September KSS Recital for the first time!
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2 new Kenshuusei were announced today on Harodori!

- Shimoitani Yukiho (下井谷幸穂) (15)
- Kamimura Rena (上村麗菜) (13)
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Rena left, Yukiho right.
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Updated the first post.
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Hope they don't suck!
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I mean they're KSS. Especially the young one has plenty of time. I'm never too big on KSS when they debut but they quickly improve, like with OCHA.
Tsubaki took their sweet time, though.
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I know, I'm just being a dick.
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===Hello! Project Kenshuusei Recital September 2022 TIME ~Jukuu~ Setlist=== (Yoshida was absent due to school event)

1. Yattaruchan / ALL
2. Zettai Idol Sengen / ALL
MC
3. Omatsuri Debut da ze! / OCHA NORMA
4. Dakedo Daisuki Tsukiaenai / KSS Unit '22
5. Kaite wa Keshite no "I Love You" / KSS Unit '22
6. Crying / KSS Unit '22
7. Suhada wa Nettaiya / OCHA NORMA
8. Hello! Umareta Imi ga Kitto Aru (OCHA NORMA Ver.) / OCHA NORMA
MC
9. Upside down girl / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Kawashima, Goto
10. Itsumo to Onnaji Seifuku de / Kawashima, Goto, Shimoitani, Kamimura
11. Suki tte Itte yo / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura, Kawashima
12. Koi no Crouching Start / OCHA NORMA
MC
13. Hyoumen Chouryoku ~Surface Tension~ / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura, Kawashima, Goto
14. Happiness ~Koufuku Kangei!~ / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Kawashima, Shimoitani
15. Onegai Miwaku no Target / Onoda, Murakoshi, Kawashima, Goto
16. Furefure Everyday / ALL KSS
MC
17. Isshakudama de Buttobase! / ALL
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I don't know if it's ever been mentioned in this thread, but in the MV for Karin's Nantatte I Love You we've got 4 KSS backdancers: Matsubara Yulia, Onoda Karin, Hashida Honoka and Murakoshi Ayana.

Also, Goto Hana has been pretty busy lately. She's been chosen as a new Oha Suta Girl.



Giving the people what they want.

And she's been in a magazine shooting.



It's been some time since a KSS has been pushed / booked that much.
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===Hello! Project Kenshuusei Recital December 2022 Snowflake ~Kesshou~ Setlist=== (OCHA's Saito was absent due to sickness)

1. Ice day Party / ALL
2. 43do / ALL
MC Intro
3. Daisuki Dakedo Tsukiaenai / KSS Unit '22
4. Say! Hello! / KSS Unit '22
5. I Need You ~Yozora no Kanransha~ / Kenshuusei
6. Yoridori ME DREAM / OCHA NORMA
MC
7. Unmei CHACHACHACHA~N / OCHA NORMA
8. Ashita Tenki ni Naare / KSS Unit '22
9. Hajimete wo Keikenchuu / Yoshida, Kawashima, Goto, Shimoitani, Kamimura
10. Uchira no Jimoto wa Chikyuu jan! / OCHA NORMA
11. Oujisama to Yuki no Yoru / Onoda, Murakoshi, Yoshida, Kawashima
MC
12. Mirror Mirror / Matsubara, Onoda, Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura, Kawashima, Shimoitani
13. Hello! Umareta Imi ga Kitto Aru / OCHA NORMA
14. Marui Taiyou / Kenshuusei
15. Renai Bugyou / Kenshuusei
16. Bravo! / ALL

===2nd Performance Changes===
11. Oujisama to Yuki no Yoru / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Goto
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So on Hello! Dream, it was announced that the KSS will be split for groupings for the upcoming Recital, singing older songs.

Last Kiss / Murakoshi, Kawashima, Shimoitani
BABY! Koi ni KNOCK OUT / Onoda, Yoshida, Goto
CRAZY ABOUT YOU / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Kamimura
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===Hello! Project Kenshuusei Recital March 2023 ~Houshun~ Setlist===

1. Busu ni Naranari Tetsugaku / KSS, OCHA NORMA
2. Hatsukoi Sunrise / KSS, OCHA NORMA
MC
3. BABY! Koi ni KNOCK OUT / Onoda, Yoshida, Goto
4. CRAZY ABOUT YOU / Matsubara, Hashida, Uemura, Kamimura
5. Last Kiss / Murakoshi, Kawashima, Shimoitani
6. Seishun Beat wa 16 / KSS (no Onoda)
MC
7. Suki yo, Junjou Hankouki. / Matsubara, Onoda, Yoshida, Kawashima, Shimoitani
8. Ai ~Suite Room~ / Hashida, Murakoshi, Uemura, Goto, Kamimura
9. Uchira no Jimoto wa Chikyuu jan! / OCHA NORMA
10. Yoridori ME DREAM / OCHA NORMA
MC
11. Onna de Chikyuu wa Mawatteru / KSS Unit '23
12. Daisuki Dakedo Tsukiaenai / KSS Unit '23
13. Animal Land / KSS (no Onoda)
14. Now Now Ningen / KSS (no Onoda)
15. Samidare Bijo ga Samidareru / KSS (no Onoda)
16. OK YEAH! / KSS (no Onoda)
MC (Spring Test on 4/30 announcement!)
17. Egao ni Namida ~THANK YOU! DEAR MY FRIENDS~ / KSS, OCHA NORMA
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ONE PLUS ONE: Yukiho Shimoitani × Rika Shimakura - Takanawa Gateway

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From Harodori, 3 new Kenshuusei have joined

- Kawano Soara (河野空愛), 16
- Makino Toa (牧野永愛), 13
- Hayashi Niina (林仁愛), 11


Also announced on main H!P site, H!P KSS Unit '23 will not participate in the Recital Test (hmmm....)
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Solarblade wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:10 pm From Harodori, 3 new Kenshuusei have joined

- Kawano Soara (河野空愛), 16
- Makino Toa (牧野永愛), 13
- Hayashi Niina (林仁愛), 11


Also announced on main H!P site, H!P KSS Unit '23 will not participate in the Recital Test (hmmm....)
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